|Sidi Ergo vs. Pearl Izumi Vaper ?||Tahoe Gator|
Aug 13, 2003 6:14 PM
|After a fairly exhaustive search for new road shoes, I have narrowed my choices to these two. I mail-ordered both and each seem to fit fairly well in the living room. I don't want to ride them both since I am hoping to return one of the pairs. So I am curious if anyone has experience with these past the "they feel good at first" timeframe.
I realize shoes are highly personal and what works for one may not for the other, but there are some factors that can be learned. For example, do either "break in" or is the fit now the fit in 1 year? Also, what about the fancy buckles on the Sidi? Better than the velcro of the Vapers? I also notice that the Vapers seem to have a full carbon sole, whereas the Sidis "appear" to have only carbon down the middle; are each equally stiff?
Any comments appreciated.
|My experience with the vortex...||niteschaos|
Aug 13, 2003 8:12 PM
|Felt the best out of all I tried in the store, and pretty comfortable at that. After 30 miles though I find the heal cup becoming a very hot spot. Good luck.|
|I'm curious about these two shoes, too...and the Genius 4 carbon||jtferraro|
Aug 14, 2003 6:01 AM
|Sorry I don't have any first hand experience w/either of these two shoes. I'd imagine they both do "break in", at least a little bit. Regarding the full carbon sole on the Vapors vs. the two carbon plates on the Sidi's, Sidi claims they put the carbon "where you need it" and since the entire sole isnt' carbon, it eliminates hot spots or foot cramps. BTW, did you also consider the Genius 4 carbons? The Ergo's are definitely pricey! Where did you buy them (both)?
|Did consider the Genius ... here's where I got them ...||Tahoe Gator|
Aug 14, 2003 5:45 PM
|I was considering the Genius, but was able to get such a good deal from Total Cycling (www.totalcycling.com) that I figured I'd go with the top-of-the-line Ergo carbons. With the US-UK arbitrage, you can save a fair amount of money over US retailers, even considering the shipping (which took no longer than domestic shipping).|
|I'd go for the Sidis||ColnagoFE|
Aug 14, 2003 7:29 AM
|I have the PI Vaper mountain show and it's OK (got a great deal on it) but my Sidis fit so much better. Buckles work fine and Sidi sells em separately in case they break. My Sidis are plenty stiff without the Carbon sole so I imagine with the carbon they'd be even better.|
Aug 14, 2003 9:52 AM
|I also have the top of the line PI MTB shoe and it is not comfortable on long rides. The top of the toungue begins to dig into the top of your foot, rather than easing up along the top. It also produces hot spots, and just isn't as uniform a fit all the way around my foot as the Sidis.|
|i heard that in this year's models they addressed that||ColnagoFE|
Aug 14, 2003 2:07 PM
|though I admit that sometimes it does feel like the tongue is digging into my foot...usually when walking the bike though and not while riding. i did get them for $90 though on closeout.|| |