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Scold me, then help pleaset0adman
Aug 11, 2003 4:28 PM
I rode the RSVP last weekend and my youngest brother and I stupidly assumed the weather would be acceptable. As luck woul dhave it, the second day it poured down rain and we froze our silly butts off for 15 miles before my brother crashed, got a flat tire, and was shivering uncontrolably. Unfortunately we decided to call it a day and get a ride. My buddy picked us up and we put our bikes on his roof rack. The ride into Vancouver and back to Seattle was nice and rainy and brutal most of the way. My plans that evening prevented me from getting my bike off the top of his car and it sat in the rain all night before drying in the sun (I'm so ticked at myself). When I picked it up I noticed it had rust spots on the chain, on the BB where the cranks enter the frame, and when I loaded it in my car some rust colored water poured out of a hole in the frame. I am sick about it but have decided to get over it and do what I can to fix it and prevent damage.

What is the best way to remove rust and how do you suggest I "rust proof" my 853 steel bike?
Two tipsKerry Irons
Aug 11, 2003 5:02 PM
One is not to worry about the chain. Clean and lube your drive train and you'll be fine (oil based lube, not wax IMO). For the frame, you can go top cabin with Frame Saver, but I had great luck on several steel frames by squirting aerosol TriFlow in every hole I could find. This coats the inside of the tubes with oil, and prevents corrosion. At this point, you just have surface rust, and getting the oil in there will stop it cold. You don't need to worry about removing the rust.
Few thingsTWD
Aug 11, 2003 8:16 PM
As Kerry mentioned, you can use Framesaver, but it is $$$$. A friend of mine who is a local framebuilder also said it isn't real friendly on paint either.

I've also heard that you can use rustrproofing products from an autoparts store. Don't know any brand names.

A little bit of surface rust inside your frame isn't going to kill it. I had an old steel mtb that I turned into a dedicated winter commuter/training bike. After several winters of abuse and neglect from a few thousand miles of snow and salt covered roads, everthing was rusted in place (seatpost, headset cups, bottom bracket). When the components gave up the ghost, I cut the frame in half to check it out. A pile of rust came pouring out of the frame and all the inside of all the tubes were coated. The structural integrity seemed to be intact since the frame never failed on me. Don't think you have to worry too much after one wet ride.

After 5 winters of moutainbikeing and commuting year round in Oregon, the best piece of advice I can give you is to pull your cranks off, take the bottom bracket out, clearn it up as well as the inside of your frame, relube it and slap it back together. The worst of the crud in your frame will make it's way down to your BB and wreak havoc on it if you leave it that way too long, especially if you do a lot of wet rides and live in a humid climate.

My steel road bike is the only bike that I don't ride in the rain, but if I did, I would definitely rust proof it.

Good luck
I'm told Linseed Oil works well, too - nmmdehner
Aug 12, 2003 7:14 AM
I like frame saver...yeah right
Aug 12, 2003 8:00 AM
It is mostly linseed oil btw, and yes it's probably $15 a can, but being a seattlite myself and not wanting to see my waterford rust through, it's worth the investment considering one can will get you many, many applications. When you apply it, follow the instructions and try to keep it off the paint, not that's hard on the paint, but that you have to use a degreaser to get it off. Make sure to do it outside or in the garage. FWIW you didn't do any lasting damage to the bike, just get it dry and coat it with protectant. My $0.02