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What is a fred?(37 posts)

What is a fred?BenLomond
Aug 11, 2003 1:59 PM
I have heard this term used many times on this board.
I'm concerned that I may be a fred and that is why other cyclist never wave back at me.
possible fred
Dude you're a Fred!the bull
Aug 11, 2003 2:04 PM
Most Freds are unaware that the are a Freds.They have out of date helmets and hairy legs(With grease sprocket marks on their legs).
Not to be confused with a poser.Whom has a full team kit and a 6,000 dollar bike!
I have an (almost) $6000 bike, so that must make me...huffer
Aug 11, 2003 3:16 PM
a guy with a good paying job and no kids, eh? Seriously, the price of ones ride should not mean diddly to anyone. What should matter is the person on top of that ride and their willingness to suffer up that last climb after mile 50 in the scorching sun...I must be crazy.
grease sprocket marks make you a Fred?KSC
Aug 11, 2003 3:30 PM
Uh oh, why do the grease sprocket marks make you a Fred? Sounds like I might need a new helmet too.
Isn't it obvious?Spoiler
Aug 11, 2003 6:38 PM
Only a Fred would grease his sprockets. Real bikers OIL their chain, which migrates to their large CHAINRING. When they brush their lower leg against the ring, it leaves teeth-shaped oil marks.
Aug 12, 2003 5:32 AM
We all get'em once in a while. But I know to wipe it off ASAP.
If you can identify a FRED...t0adman
Aug 11, 2003 3:40 PM
then it's likely you're a tool. I'm thinking of starting my own line of clothing called Fred Wear. I'm so sick of all this bull about looking like a Fred or a poser or whatever. Hammer with me for the last 10 miles of a century and you can wear Glad bags and hot pink leg warmers for all I care. Fred or not, enjoy riding and don't get so hung up on how you look.
Fred Wear - I like it! nmsnapdragen
Aug 11, 2003 5:05 PM
I'm going to start my own clothing line.....TWD
Aug 11, 2003 7:53 PM
I will call it, The North Farce, and it will be really really expensive, and I will sell it to all the Fred's of the outdoor world.

I will be rich...ahhh nevermind.
I'm thinking of starting my own line of clothing called Fred WeaSpoiler
Aug 11, 2003 6:46 PM
Primal Wear beat you to it.
LOL!!! Good one Spoiler! nmthe bull
Aug 11, 2003 7:13 PM
Thanks, Fred topics inspire me.Spoiler
Aug 12, 2003 11:53 AM
I'm naturally a lazy b@stard. Fred topics are easy prey.
Dude you're a Fred!lemmy999
Aug 11, 2003 4:37 PM
I guess I will always be a Fred since shaving serves no purpose and I would rather spend the time it takes to shave either riding or working on my bike. If it served a purpose, I would consider it.
Dude you're a Fred!wspokes
Aug 12, 2003 3:42 AM
So i have unshaven legs! I guess I am a Fred? I used to race with unshaven legs...I used to win with unshaven legs, I used to laugh because it amused me. Out of date helmets?? Who cares? So if you have a cool retro new age wanna-be helmet. you're not a fred anymore? Ok...gotta agree with the guy above. If you can hammer it out and have fun on a bike...even if you can't hammer it out and just go as well as you are a biker. who cares what you wear...unless of course it is THONGMAN!
Thongman is no longer with us..may his naked butt RIP(nm)PaulCL
Aug 12, 2003 5:39 AM
Dude you're a Fred!twowheelMarc
Aug 12, 2003 6:15 AM
I have an out of date helmet, and hairly legs, no grease marks though! I have hairy arms too, does that make me king fred?
Interesting name ...Humma Hah
Aug 11, 2003 2:10 PM
Ben Lomond is a park near Manassas.

Now, if you're a park, then you must be a pretty casual, laid-back kinda rider. Average fellow. Fred.

Its not really a bad thing. Just somebody who's not into racing or serious training. Maybe dares to just ride because they LIKE it.

Like me.

Are you from around Manassas?
Interesting name ...BenLomond
Aug 11, 2003 2:18 PM
no, Ben Lomond California, close to Santa Cruz.
So far it sounds like I'm a fred.
from the archivesSao
Aug 11, 2003 2:19 PM
cyclopathic "(Admittedly stupid) -Difference between Fred & poser" 4/30/02 11:17am
Not to worry ...Humma Hah
Aug 11, 2003 2:46 PM
I fit in just fine around here. See how you stack up.

I ride two bikes, a 1971 Schwinn cruiser and a 1974 Paramount set up fixed gear. Don't own a race bike or a road bike with gears.

I commute to work in ordinary street clothes.

I ride the cruiser with platform pedals and street shoes.

Both bikes have lights, blinkers and reflectors. The cruiser has fenders. I wear a mirror on my helmet.

My cruising speed on an exceptionally good day is maybe 16 mph.

I usually ride with a backpack. Sometimes I ride with a fanny pack.

I don't CARE if I look like a racer.

My legs look like a steel wool pad.

My bet is you ain't HALF as Fred as I am. Probably much more of a proper roadie.

And if it makes you feel any better, Robin Williams probably qualifies as a Fred, too (although he can whup the butt of half the riders on this forum). Hairy sonuvagun. Not that serious. Rides what he likes because he enjoys it.
Interesting name ...FastFred
Aug 11, 2003 5:28 PM NAME is Fred! I wear a one year old Garneau helmet...umm, I ride a Lemond Buenos Aires...I like to keep around a 20mph pace on 30-50 mile rides, so no, I don't think I'm a "Fred".

Interesting name ...Ironbutt
Aug 12, 2003 3:33 AM
Actually, Fred is an interesting name. It is the dimunitive form of Frederick, which is the Anglicized form of the Teutonic Freiderich, which means a wise and gentle ruler. So it's actually a good thing to be a Fred.
the king of all fredsEpicX
Aug 11, 2003 4:38 PM
the king of all fredsSao
Aug 11, 2003 5:30 PM
As if the circa '98 Virenque haircut and old skool, button-up jersey weren't bad enough, he's not even wearing a helmet!

You're right. Total fred.
= FredHigh Gear
Aug 11, 2003 5:21 PM
LOL...good one!marcoxxx
Aug 12, 2003 6:54 AM
he takes freds to a whole different level

No such thing as a "Fred". Either you ride or you don't.Tig
Aug 11, 2003 7:07 PM
I've said it before and will say it again: There isn't room for elitism, snobbery and division among cyclists.

However, riding for months/years with the manufacturer's size sticker still on the seat tube sure would be a starting place!
A while back it used to be a guy with a helmet...Tom C
Aug 11, 2003 9:00 PM
usually with a mirror attached, pedaling at about 65 rpm with the aforementioned unshaven legs and often a touring bike with a 32-38 tooth large freewheel cog, shorts but not racing shorts, possibly some kind of saddle bag or panniers. In short a desultory assessment by a member of the racing fraternity of a tourist. Of course now racers wear helmets.
Fred's are just ahead of their time...filtersweep
Aug 12, 2003 4:58 AM
They are truly the trend-setters.

...eventually, we'll all be Fred's

- either due to age (when I have the crotchety attitude that $17 is too much to spend on a new helmet in the year 2040- or that I'm STILL WEARING my Limar F111 in 2040- never mind the fact that I might STILL be riding with STI shifters (oh-my-GAWD!!!)


- we'll have a massive energy crisis and duct tape will be your bike's best friend as we all commute to work on the otherwise empty streets- a non-motorized post-apocolyptic "Mad Max on bicycles"- Fred's will rule the world!
I'm qualified fred....asphalt assault
Aug 12, 2003 2:36 AM
Baggy MTB shorts, hairy legs, loose fitting jersey, MTB helmet with the viser removed and MTB shoes that obviously have spent a lot of time off road. I can say that I ride a very nice custom Ti road bike though...with the stem flipped to give me a 5 deg rise...and MTB pedals...

Freds are comfort oriented, practical types:0)
It really is simple...Dwayne Barry
Aug 12, 2003 4:40 AM
a Fred is somebody who doesn't "get it". It's not dependent per se on the bike you ride, the clothes you wear or anything else because "it" is going to depend on context.
Absolutly..........Len J
Aug 12, 2003 4:53 AM
we are all Fred's to somebody, and everybody is a fred to us at some point.

** yawn ** please don't feed nmJS Haiku Shop
Aug 12, 2003 5:18 AM
re: What is a fred?mattvargus
Aug 12, 2003 6:13 AM
....if only you "proper", non-fred roadies only knew how little difference shaved legs makes for the average rider. unless you have sasquatch legs, or you're an olympic time trialist, i don't think shaving your legs is necessary. the average cycling jersey, while baggier than lycra, creates muuuch more drag than a couple of scraggly leg hairs. so when i see you non-fred weenies on the road with a cycling jersey and legs shinier and smoother than my wife's, i just have to laugh. fools. time your mile, then grow your leg hair out and re-time. i bet it won't make a damn bit of difference.
You don't get "it"...Dwayne Barry
Aug 12, 2003 6:27 AM
and anybody who tells you they shave for a functional reason doesn't get it! Less drag (of course this is so marginal that it is meaningless), massages (how many get these regularly), easier to clean road rash, etc. are rarely the ultimate reason why a cyclist shaves their legs. The reason cyclists shave their legs is to identify themselves to other cyclists as being "serious" about it. In other words it is largely a style thing, get it? Anybody who races knows that the difference between being there and not being there has nothing to do with shaved legs.
A fred isMXL02
Aug 12, 2003 6:40 AM
a figment of the imagination of someone who believes they are a really hot, cool roadie...most of whom are legends in their own mind.
my definitionsteve-z
Aug 12, 2003 8:08 AM
Fred: Anyone who calls others "Poser".
Poser: Anyone who calls others "Fred".