|Anyone have pics of the Specialized roadbikes?||CaliforniaDreaming|
Aug 11, 2003 9:05 AM
|I believe the Roubaix and a Carbon/Al bike will be sold by Specialized as 2004 models. Any of you guys have pics or have any details?|
|Anyone have pics of the 2004 Specialized roadbikes?nm.||CaliforniaDreaming|
Aug 11, 2003 9:18 AM
|re: Details but no pics..Full carbon bikes on the way.||elom|
Aug 11, 2003 12:20 PM
|Dealers were treated to 2004 preview held in California within the last few days--pics exist but only in dealer catalog. One new model is the Tarmac, a Carbon and and Alum model that is atrocious (sp?) in my book--who knows maybe it rides great but is a bike that is folloing the trend of metal "spines" and Carbon a la Lemond Tete de Course. I wasn't sure if the bike should be ridden or needed and amplifier so I could plug it in and play it.
The two Roubaix models are full carbon--yes full carbon, but feature longer wheelbases than standard compacts. They also lowered the BB shell and they gave the thing a slight headtube extension so the front end is taller. They feature the Zertz elastomers in the forks and seat stays.
Specialized will be using the Zertz on many models and in seatposts for some roadbikes. They did not drop the more conventional Alum compact models from their line-up and they will use plenty of Dura Ace 10 speed parts-no Campy anywhere.
Expect a larger quantity of high-end choices in the road division. Tarmac, Roubaix, S-Works Road. The only problem I see are sticker prices that approach that of bikes with stronger curb appeal than Specialized.
|Any thoughts on the Zertz elastomers?||CaliforniaDreaming|
Aug 11, 2003 1:03 PM
|I've seen these in pictures of the Roubaix. My LBS manager commented about the Tarmac. He said he was really impressed by the ride and handling. He also commented that the Roubaix didn't handle near as well. I'm guessing wheelbase. Just looking to see if anyone else had similar or dissimilar opinions.
Also, what up with the elastomers. Do these things work?
|Any thoughts on the Zertz elastomers?||Heron Todd|
Aug 11, 2003 4:28 PM
|I was at the meeting and rode the bikes. The Tarmac, to me, was beautiful. Picture art book close-up photos of Ferraris and Ducatis. Looks pretty slick but seemed to ride much like other lightweight racers to me. The full carbon Roubaix had a much nicer ride. It's also lighter, torsionally stiffer, and laterally stiffer than the Tarmac. The Roubaix frame is under 1 kg in a medium size. The Tarmac is around 1.1 kg. I attribute the nicer ride of the Roubaix to the geometry as much as material. It was also more confidence-inspiring on fast, curvy descents.
If you like the typical American crit bike, the Tarmac will feel more like home. If you like a more relaxed European stage race frame, the Roubaix is the one. Either is fully raceable.
I'm not so sure about the Zertz inserts. It was hard to tell the difference in ride since all the bikes had them. Specialized has test data which show that they reduce vibration in the seatpost, but it's not clear whether this reduction is large enough to be noticed by a rider. The seatpost is cantilevered off of the frame and is free to flex. It's not clear that even if there is an advantage in the seatpost and fork that there would be any difference in an inherently rigid structure like the rear triangle.