|Kristin's Monday Morning Bad Mojo Poll: Have been hit or been hit by a car while riding?||Kristin|
Aug 11, 2003 6:41 AM
|I'm a little superstitious about a post like this--especially since I began commuting last week; but I'm curious to know just how many have had a bike vs. car wreck. As I've read this board, I get the impression that its almost inevitable.|
|its not so bad....||filtersweep|
Aug 11, 2003 6:52 AM
|Been hit by a car on a bike once- been hit by a car in a car a few times. Like most car accidents ("fender benders") most car bike accidents aren't as bad as they appear. Once you've been rolling around on the ground once, you'll shed your fear. Serious accidents of either type are very rare.|
|one here...||Mike Prince|
Aug 11, 2003 6:56 AM
|Got hit 3 weeks ago. A spectacular accident that resulted in lots of road rash and a totaled bike. Could have been much worse, I'm very lucky. For what it's worth, I have had worse crashes (from an injury POV) without a car involved.
I think that the more you ride, crashes are inevitable. But I wouldn't say that a car will necessarily be involved.
Aug 11, 2003 7:00 AM
|I was at an intersection that had three lanes. Two lanes went straight, and one was a dedicated right turn lane. In the space between the right lane and the other two lanes was an island for pedestrians to use the crosswalk. I wish I could draw this out, but that's where I was, in a bike lane.
So there are two through lanes to the left of me. The light turns green and everyone goes. Suddenly, the guy in the lane next to me decides he missed his turn and turns right, (an illegal maneuver). Of course, I'm in his way now. The car hits me, but I had a little time to react and was prepared for it. I stick my arm out, grab on to the car and cling to it, all the while shouting at the people inside through the open passenger window. The driver finally realizes I'm there and stops turning, continuing to go straight with me attached to his car. Then he stops, most of the way through the intersection. I say few choice words, then push off and ride away. No harm to me or the bike, but the car had a very nice scratch in it. I made sure of that.
The story doesn't end there. The guy was determined to make that right turn, so he actually backs up, nearly taking out my two friends behind me in the process! Amazing. We all got lucky that day.
|Inevitable...but it took 15 years for me...||biknben|
Aug 11, 2003 7:01 AM
|I got hit this spring after 15+ years of trouble free riding. It was as good an experience as it could be. Lady blew a stop sign and I T-boned her. I took my free ambulance ride to the hospital. Original x-rays were negative but a CT scan the next week revealed a small break of the collarbone near my neck. I only missed one day of riding. The break wasn't bad so just call me Tyler.
Her insurance covered 80% of a significantly inflated damage estimate. My insurance is covering most of my injury bills and her insurance will get the rest.
I got a new frame and fork. Then I went on a great shopping binge at the LBS.
|Two, one near miss.||MXL02|
Aug 11, 2003 7:03 AM
|All three occurred while I was trying to ride in areas with a lot of traffic...the only way to avoid car v bike incidents,IMHO, is to ride where there no cars...no matter how much we believe we have an equal right to the road, motorists will ignore us, turn in front of us like we don't exist, etc.
I commute on a MUT...if I had to ride on the streets, I wouldn't commute, because I can't afford an injury that would lay me up for more than a day or two...a three month recovery would put me out of business.
|Once here.........||Len J|
Aug 11, 2003 7:05 AM
|and I've been riding for 20 years (off and on).
I read somewhere that the average cyclist will have an accident once every 8,400 miles, since not all are with cars, I am going to be an optimist and believe that I'm OK for a while.
Of course with MB1 & Miss M in the average, it may be once every 5,000 miles for the rest of us.
|Clipped by a rear-view mirror. No crash. Charged driver. nm||Spunout|
Aug 11, 2003 7:10 AM
|Yup. Latest - June 13th, 2002. Still healing.||Atombomber|
Aug 11, 2003 7:15 AM
|A year of PT, and still shoulder pain. Had an MRI. Determined partially torn supraspinatus tendon. To see specialist this week.|
|Several close calls, but not tagged yet, <x'ing the fingers>||Mike P|
Aug 11, 2003 7:16 AM
|You can't control the drivers or predict what they are going to do, and the drivers can say the same about bikers, but you can pay attention all the time, decreasing the likelyhood of being hit.
In a few cases, I could have easily been hit if I had been looking down at my computer or chain or whatever. Grow an eyeball that goes all the way around your head.
Way to go on the commuting, keep with it. I have been planning to do the same for over a year now.
Aug 11, 2003 7:46 AM
|Here's a clever solution from a Harley rider . . .|
|Take a real close look at that pic...||paddlechris|
Aug 11, 2003 10:21 AM
|I sent this to my wife and she called me and said it looked like.. Above the eyes look like a womens thighs and torso... the nose looks like frank and beans if you know what I mean...|
Aug 11, 2003 12:08 PM
|I've had that pic a while and never noticed those details! Your wife sounds like a keeper.|
|re: Kristin's Monday Morning Bad Mojo Poll: Have been hit or been hit by a car while riding?||GregJ|
Aug 11, 2003 7:19 AM
|23 years of cycling and 2 crashes, one a nasty fast pack crash but none involving a car. I have had many close calls. Off topic, Kristen remeber when you lost your chain in the bottle of solvent a while back, I kind of gave you a hard time about it and fessed up to losing a Cateye computer while washing my bike, guess what, I found the computer laying in a Kaffir Lily, covered in leaves and mud yesterday while giving the bike a bath. It was still working!|
|only one...odds are against you over time though (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Aug 11, 2003 7:22 AM
|re: Kristin's Monday Morning Bad Mojo Poll: Have been hit or been hit by a car while riding?||SeamusAD|
Aug 11, 2003 7:23 AM
|Over the course of 8,000+ miles--a year and half of road riding-- I have already been hit twice. I required a new helmet and some new skin after the first collision and a new wheel as a result of the second.
I should mention that I live in Boston, home to the worst drivers I have ever encountered. This is a credible statement considering that I grew up in Manhattan, and have lived in France, Germany, Philadelphia, Miami, Minneapolis, and Detroit.
So while I do ride briskly through the streets of Beantown, I am not entirely to blame for my unusual mi.-to-accidents ratio.
Also, each accident has made me more fearful of riding out of and into the city. At times, I don't even want to ride due to the traffic. Be careful.
|Its not inevitable.....but its easy to think that way||CARBON110|
Aug 11, 2003 7:33 AM
|As someone who rides more then 8k last year, I would say this:
-Plan time of day to go for a ride..some are MUCH better then others
-Plan on where you are going to ride before leaving, good for training and you know what to expect but dont be afraid to explore
-If you live in a city, plan a safe fast way out of it
-ALWAYS expect drivers/cars to do the wrong thing...anticipate it! More often then not they will
-Never trust other riders judgment, don't always follow a wheel your not sure of down hills fast or through a city
Almost daily I have a potential life threating or close call, but I try to keep it minimal by choosing wher ei ride. Sometimes though its unavoidable. By the way the woman who hit me plead guilty last week. She didnt want to see me so she called her lawyer and told him to plead guilty. He told me why
Aug 11, 2003 7:30 AM
|I was riding down a hill and a car pulled out in front of me. I hit it broadside and went flying over the trunk. I got a few scrapes, but was OK. The front wheel of my bike was tacoed.
I go down that hill slower since.
Don't assume that its inevitable that you'll get hit. I've been commuting for 9 years, year round and only had the one incident. Part of my commute has always been in DC traffic too. Just be careful and you'll be OK. Watch the cars, not the traffic lights.
|Twice, and a near miss this morning while riding.||cydswipe|
Aug 11, 2003 7:41 AM
|I've been tagged twice. Both times by drivers not observing posted signage. Only one ride to the hospital though. This a.m had to take it off road to avoid Mini-van driving, cell-phone using, looking for something in the passenger seat, lady who never slowed down or realized she was in the wrong lane, coming towards me head on.|
|Never hit by a car, but almost crashed into one.||MR_GRUMPY|
Aug 11, 2003 7:44 AM
|Just picture it. The last mile of ego filled training ride. Winding up for the final sprint. A car had just started passing us, when I rolled over a very sharp rock. My front tire blew, and the impact of hitting the rock, kicked up the front of the bike off the ground. I noticed that I was going into the rear fender of the car, so I reached over with my left hand, and pushed off of the car. I managed to clear the car, but not the pavement. For some reason, everybody behind me, managed to get around my body on the road.
After the crash, everyone behind me, gave me a perfect "10.0" score on the crash.
|Mr Gurmpy same thing happened to me with a 90b dog!||CARBON110|
Aug 11, 2003 8:04 AM
|He ran into the road while we were going about 28mph and ran straight at me. He couldnt stop and neither could I so I stuck my leg out bounced off him, wiggled around the road on my bike going down hill, ran off the road onto a grass lawn and touched down with same leg. Everyone in the group caught up to me and patted me on the back saying ... nice handling skills...I said you mean luck|
Aug 11, 2003 8:26 AM
Aug 11, 2003 7:47 AM
|got squeezed between the parking lane & traffic. saw someone open the driverside door, i moved out to avoid getting doored just as a green minivan moved toward me (don't know why). front bumper of the minivan tapped my fork leg. i bobbled but didn't go down (don't know how though). minivan didn't even know they hit me. i was so surprised that i didnt' go down that the whole thing took several blocks to register in my brain. then i had to stop because i was shaking so badly i thought i would crash!!
Aug 11, 2003 8:21 AM
|My experience in Washington DC was of daily near misses, even with years of city riding under my belt.
My last bike commuting day was about a year ago, when a taxi made a left out of a blind spot (panel truck stopped at green light in center lane) across me. I was making probably 18mph at the time on an old 'Dale; locked 'em up on pure reflex and went head-first into the asphalt. Never made actual contact with the cab.
Result was a smashed the helmet and spinal fluid coming out of my nose (bad thing - passing doctor/samaritan was unhappy to see it). Collar bone borken in two places, and three busted ribs. Had to sit on the curb and listen to the driver of the stopped truck scream about how bike should be illegal in the city.
Fault was with the cabbie for the maneuver, but I should have seen potential trouble in the obvious blindspot.
Full day in the ER, many trips to the ortho, and about six months off bikes altogether for mainly psyshological reasons. Bone breaks were no fun, but also nothing new. It was the shot to the head that gave me serious pause. And Percoset is not nearly as fun as people tell you.
My advice: wear a helmet (or two); watch your speed; keep at least one blinky lite front & bacn; and ALAWAYS expect the other guy to do the worst thing at the worst time.
|Yes, commuting to class during college.||Aztec|
Aug 11, 2003 8:05 AM
|I was in the bike lane and a pickup truck decided to pass me then make a right turn (Not a 90 degree turn, more like a fork in the road going right). She clipped my handlebar sending me over the bars. Luckilly my backpack helped me rotate a little faster and I almost pulled off a feet first landing. Other than some minor road rash and a massive dose of adrenaline I was fine.
Bike sustained no damage except for some scratches.
|1 x. I was lucky.||KG 361|
Aug 11, 2003 8:11 AM
|It happened several years ago. A young (college aged) driver turned left in front of me, coming the other way. I landed on the hood of her Lincoln. A few cuts and bruises and a sprained knee. If I were to do it all over again, I would not be as understanding as I was.|
Aug 11, 2003 8:26 AM
|I was riding to work after lunch at home. Bright red white and blue Brooklyn jersey. I was on a farm to market road - Texas. Elderly woman hit me with her right side mirror as she passed me. Knocked me off the bike, ripped out the quick release skewer from my rear wheel. Bike really wasn't damaged that much. Road rash - I have a scar on my right shoulder. The car's mirror was knocked off the car and the right front tire sidewall was gashed open. I was real lucky.
Lesson: Avoid traffic as much as possible. Don't ride on FM roads that do not have shoulders to get away from traffic. Of course this lesson is honored in the breach.
|They say these things come in three's....||crestlinefarm|
Aug 11, 2003 8:36 AM
|My three experiences over the past 15 years....
1. Hit by a car.
Riding around a one-way loop, a driver spots a precious parking space and swings into me, I hit his left front fender and fly, dragging the bike--which is still clipped to my shoes--with me over his hood. Result: Luckily, dent in his fender and scratches on the hood, and only gravel in both my palms.
2. Hit a car.
Pulling up a long, steep hill, someone has double parked a Cadillac in the right lane as they quickly run into a bank/post office/etc... I look up at the last minute as I'm jamming my brake lever through his tail light. Result: Busted his tail light, bent my brake lever, and tons of embarassment having to admit hitting a parked car.
3. Hit a pedestrian.
A boneheaded pedestrian walks into the intersection despite the "Don't Walk" sign. There were no cars on the road, just me travelling downhill at 25 mph, hooking her purse strap like a Navy jet doing a carrier landing. Result: her purse literally exploding in the crosswalk.
|thanks Kristin - you've jinxed everybody now! :-)||MJ|
Aug 11, 2003 9:07 AM
|motorcycle took me out from behind once - no injuries/damage
car hit me once ended up on hood - no injuries/damage
hit a pedestrian, on average, every three months - no injuries/damage
all in all very lucky - this thread gives me the heebeejeebees - going to ride home now - wish me/them luck
|You hit a ped every three months???||PseuZQ|
Aug 11, 2003 12:22 PM
|Did I read that correctly? Or are you yanking our collective chains?|
|it's not inevitable||tarwheel|
Aug 11, 2003 9:15 AM
|Maybe I'm just lucky, but I haven't been hit by a car or crashed in 30+ years of cycling. In college, my bicycle was my only means of transportation. I've cycled 20,000 miles the past three years alone and haven't even had a close call. I am sure there is some luck involved, but I also think you can minimize the risk of accidents through defensive riding and other things such as always wearing brightly colored clothes and helmet, using a mirror, using a tail-light when daylight is dim, making sure your tires and wheels are in good shape, etc. In my opinion, the riskiest things about cycling are things you can control -- such as being alert for rocks and potholes, not being noticed by drivers because you're wearing a black or gray jersey, not wearing a helmet, not using a mirror.|
|Mirror is a good idea. My one true close call was w/out mirror||Kristin|
Aug 11, 2003 10:35 AM
|This would have been bad. I was riding alone along a local club route. There's a spot along the route where you must turn onto a fast 1 lane highway with no shoulder (Lake Cook Road, Barrington Hills) and follow it for 1/4 mile before turning left onto Meadow Hill. My handling skills are, lets say...developing. But I still tend to move the bike when I check my shoulder. A very quiet caddy was moving up behind me when I did a shoulder check and drifted. I must have come 4 inches from the fender. That wudda hurt.
I have not bought a mirror yet, though I'm not sure why. I saw some guy get a lot of flack for having one on a road bike and kinda put them in the same catetory kick stands. But that's just silly. I told myself for a while that not getting a mirror would force me to develop handling skills. But I guess not if I'm dead.
|bike v. car x4, walking v. car x1, car v. car x many times||moschika|
Aug 11, 2003 10:30 AM
|not that i'm crash prone but i've had my share of interactions with cars.
i've been hit while on my bike 3-4 for times. once in 5th grade while riding to school.
once in high school while riding to the store. even went on the sidewalk to avoid a big rush of traffic and got t-boned by a driver coming out of an alleyway.
a big old cadillac hit my rear wheel and made me loose my balance.
and last summer a van turned right, right in front of me and i couldn't slow down fast enough and crashed into the side of.
i've also been hit while walking across the street.
you'ld think i'ld be a rich man by now but all of these were basically hit-and-runs.
maybe that's why i mostly mtb, but then i've crashed because of my own doing and have been hurt worse on the trail.
and then i've been hit(all, except once were their fault) by cars while driving probably about 1/2 a dozen times. and another few times while being a passenger in a car.
Aug 11, 2003 10:49 AM
|I was hit a few years ago by a guy in a pickup turning left into a driveway. I was going 25+ mph down a hill on my normal training ride. He saw me, stopped, and then proceede to turn right in front of me. I had enough time to react and swing my bike and aim towards a bush. I took his passenger side mirror off with my rib cage and brought my bike to a stop. No damage to the bike. I tore most of the muscles in both shoulders and reopened a recent surgical site.|| |