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Pedal stroke and breathing techniques(8 posts)

Pedal stroke and breathing techniqueskomatiite
Aug 7, 2003 7:26 AM
This has most liekly been talked about before but i couldnt find anything with a search on it from the boards..

is it most effective to sync up breathing and pedal stoke? what i mean is, say breathe in every other pedal stroke and breathe out on the middle stroke. I have tried this recently on a ride and noticed some improvement, however, i find myself counting with the same leg and seem to pull harder with the leg im 'counting' with.

does anyone have any recommendations on this? before i tried this, i breated whenever i had to and with this new way, it seems like i was breathign a LOt harder when i was on the flats [ i usually have a cadence ~ 95-100] trying to sync breathing & pedaling.

thanks.
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniquesJon Billheimer
Aug 7, 2003 8:29 AM
Synchronizing your breathing and pedal stroke will improve your economy. A couple of points. Select a comfortable pattern, but breath out to a longer count than your inbreath, e.g. 4 strokes out, 3 strokes in. As much as possible keep your total breath patterns to an odd number. This is called switchside breathing and will ensure that you start each breath cycle with an alternate leg. The best reference on breathing and entrainment is www.breathplay.com
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniqueskomatiite
Aug 7, 2003 9:51 AM
i checked out the breath play site. looks interesting; has a philosophical bent on it form what i read [not a bad thing]. as for the switchside breathing, i'll try it as this is something that i was having a problem with.
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniquesJon Billheimer
Aug 7, 2003 10:25 AM
The instructional CDs that Ian Jackson sells are one of the best movement-learning tools I've ever come across. They're great for winter indoor training. I've used them for two winters now both on my rollers and indoor trainer. They changed the way I ride, the way I breath on the bike, and helped me improve my cycling economy by almost 20%. When you learn the technique well it will really help your climbing.
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniqueskomatiite
Aug 7, 2003 10:51 AM
hmm...improving climbing technique, something i can always use...
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniqueskomatiite
Aug 10, 2003 8:55 AM
I went riding yesterday for about 30 miles [typical ride] and tried my luck at switchside breathing. wOw! it helped out considerably. my pedalstroke seemed more even, like both legs were pushing with the same amount of force. i did the 4in, 3 out as suggested; my only problem is that i wasnt used to riding this way and more or less ended up counting 4's and 3's for ~ 1.5 hours!
Here is what I have read...Synchronicity
Aug 7, 2003 5:50 PM
When you inhale, first fill your diaphram - then your lungs. You will be able to take deeper breaths that way. That is why Lance Armstrong and Jan Ullrich look so "thick" from the side. [Someone mentioned about a week back]
When you exhale, do it forcefully to get rid of all the oxygen depleted air, and doing it forcefully will automaticall make you breathe in deeper.

Also, if you always inhale on the down-stroke of your right pedal, for example, you risk damaging that side of your body. It has been proven with runners that do it and develeop knee problems (or whatever) on one side of their body. Happens because on the exhale you use your limbs more forcefully. So this repeated force leads to assymmetric injuries.
re: Pedal stroke and breathing techniquesNewDayNewWay
Aug 8, 2003 5:23 AM
Posers should hold their breath and close their mouths whenever another rider approaches. That way the other rider will think you're in great shape because you can ride at 20+ while only breathing through your nose. Exhale after the rider pases.