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Poggios: how to guage shoe fit in the "toe box" area ?(6 posts)

Poggios: how to guage shoe fit in the "toe box" area ?Tahoe Gator
Aug 4, 2003 6:31 PM
Local bike shops have no good shoes, so, wanting to try the new Nike Poggio II shoes, I ordered both a 45 and a 45.5, figuring I would try them on and send the wrong size back.

Well, having a hard time deciding between the two. If I put the cleats on and go riding, my return is nullified if it's the wrong size. The 44s feel nice and snug, but not tight. However, I have wide feet and tend to get sore pinky toes sometimes. The 44.5s also feel pretty good, and certainly have a bit more room in the toe box area. Trouble is, I worry that could be a bad thing and that I won't get enough toe-to-shoe contact inside the toe box.

I realize this is a personal fit issue and nearly an impossible thing to comment on; however, any advice on how to assess which pair before I flip a coin would be appreciated.
I'd get the wider shoes.Spoiler
Aug 4, 2003 7:24 PM
Keep in mind, in the middle of a hard ride, you're feet will swell at least a half size. Also, many times shoes claim to be "wide", but this doesn't necessarily mean more toe room. Sometimes a wider shoe just means it's wider across the fore-foot, or ball of the foot, then it narrows back down at the toe. I'd get the wider shoes. If you ride in the winter, you'll be wearing thicker socks anyways.

For me, a shoe would have to be at least a full size too large in order to create "toe-to-shoe contact (or lack of contact) problems.
Why Nike?jtolleson
Aug 5, 2003 6:23 AM
If your issue is forefoot width and little toe soreness, then it doesn't make sense to be shopping one of the narrow lasted shoes on the market.

Diadora, Northwave, Carnac, or Pearl Izumi will all give you a little more room up front. I have the same problem as you.
Which do you recommend then?Tahoe Gator
Aug 5, 2003 6:43 AM
I am coming off Pearl Izumi Vapors. Love 'em, up until long hours in the saddle, then get hot spots. Like the lightness and stiffness of the Poggio IIs, but open to other ideas. Quartz maybe? What specific models do you recommend?
Which do you recommend then?jtolleson
Aug 5, 2003 7:19 AM
Hmmmm! Hot spots with the Vapors? I'm a little surprised just because the carbon sole is sooo stiff. What pedals are you using? I confess that Vapors would have been one of my suggestions.

Northwave Evolutions are a good prospect, as are Diadora Cosmos if you are on more of a budget.

My only Carnacs are the Quartz, and I'm not certain that they still offer them. The Shimano SHR150 is another stiff soled road shoe with not quite as big of toebox as Northwave but I think it will beat your Nikes by a bit.
Pedals: Time ATAC (mtb) ... switching to Dura Ace ...Tahoe Gator
Aug 5, 2003 8:38 AM
Hmmm. I always figured that the Vapers were so stiff that the pedals did not matter. Maybe switching to the new Dura Ace pedals will help?

I have to get new shoes anyway, however, as my Vapers are mtb shoes. The Quartz are still available. How do you compare the Quartz/Vapers/Cosmos?