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Give thanks, this could probaly be any one of us.(9 posts)

Give thanks, this could probaly be any one of us.curtybirdychopper
Aug 4, 2003 11:07 AM
Has anyone else heard this story? Its so unimaginable that I dont even know what to say?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/08/04/state1326EDT0073.DTL
Special place in hell for this guy.....(just read it)PseuZQ
Aug 4, 2003 11:13 AM
Joshua Tree area is beautiful, but my understanding of the Yucca Valley area (I've ridden through there only once) is that it is home to some unsavory characters and a bustling methamphetamine industry.
Sigh... The choices people make? This story is sad beyond words.Kristin
Aug 4, 2003 11:17 AM
I don't think somohair_chair
Aug 4, 2003 11:26 AM
This is horrible and tragic and the guy who did it should be disembowled, but I have to wonder why anyone is out riding (or pushing their bike) on the roadway in the middle of nowhere at 1:15 AM? That has bad idea written all over it. What happened isn't as unforeseeable a result to me.
Avoiding the heat??newridr
Aug 4, 2003 11:39 AM
I say this without any real knowledge of the area, but they could have been riding at that time to avoid extreme midday temps. While I would think about the same tactic, I would seriously have to consider the fact that many, many drunk driving accidents happen right about the same time that they were tragically killed.

I'm not saying this is anyone else's fault but the drunk driver who savagely ran them down, merely stating that riders and walkers run more of a risk at this time. It's absolutely horrible when someone is killed while doing the thing that brings them their greatest pleasure. I feel terrible for the families left behind.
Not even going to address your comment but they're out theresidley
Aug 4, 2003 11:45 AM
at 1:15 am because two elderly, pack-laden cyclists probably don't want to hit the black top roads of the frickin' desert in the day time for obvious reasons. Nor would they want to be out there at dawn or dusk and risk being obscured by the glare on their east/west route.
though you gotta admit it doesn't show the best judgementColnagoFE
Aug 4, 2003 12:44 PM
sure there is no excuse for the cowardly actions of the drunk who hit them, but if i was driving in the middle of the desert at night the last thing i'd be expecting is a couple of guys pushing their bikes up a hill.
disagree, hard to quantify the odds...curtybirdychopper
Aug 4, 2003 1:17 PM
I doubt that these riders in the desert took much greater risk than you or me going for a friday after work ride where there are probably more than a few people coming home after a few happy hour drinks.

I would imagine that these people were pretty well lit with lights and reflectors being prepared for a trip like theirs.

Know matter how safe you play it, you can't prepare or avoid something like this.
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Aug 4, 2003 7:12 PM