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Aug 4, 2003 5:41 AM
If you could drop 3K on a steel bike what would be your dream ride? I am kind of thinking about a LeMond with Campy Chorus groupo or would i be better off going custom with not so great groupo, something like a Waterford or Curtlo with Ultegra? Anythoughts on just how much bike i can do in Steel for 3K? Thanks
IF Crown Jewel / Ultegra -- nmgf99
Aug 4, 2003 5:45 AM
YES! That's what I chose.....2melow
Aug 4, 2003 8:08 AM
IF Crown Jewel with a Dura Ace/Ultegra mix.

19 pounds of pure custom steel riding joy...
Nice pic ... where is that, btw?gf99
Aug 4, 2003 8:13 AM
The area looks somewhat familiar, but can't say for sure.
Aug 4, 2003 12:40 PM
Trail Ridge Road in RMNP just west of Estes Park.
What's in theBruceG
Aug 4, 2003 6:08 PM
little bottle behind the seat tube? Nice picture.
You're making me nervousCrankist
Aug 4, 2003 8:28 AM
with visions of tumbling water bottles, smooshed seat stays and total CroMo carnage bouncing out of view. Does it have to lean so close to the edge? And oh yeah- attractive bike.
Aug 4, 2003 12:41 PM
had it been windy, this shot wouldn't exist!
Aug 4, 2003 5:50 AM
You can easily get a Colnago Master X-light with Chorus for under $3000. Check out for the lowest price. From Maestro, you could prbably even upgrade to Neutron or Eurus wheels for under $3000.
Custom by Carl Strongterry b
Aug 4, 2003 5:58 AM
Foco or 853 frame = 1200
Ouzo Pro fork = 350
Complete Chorus kit = 1565
Total = 3115

your choice of colors and geometry - try getting that on a Lemond.

You could even save 2-300 if you buy the frame, get the fork and build kit elsewhere and build it yourself.

He's a great guy to work with and he builds a quality bike.
Aug 4, 2003 5:59 AM
Steelman, waterford, strong, cherry, Seven, Co-motion, etc. etc. I have a Colnago master x-light, and I love it because the geometry works for me...but if I was to buy another steel frame and spend the same amount of money, I would definitely go can get one for about the same price as a Master XL. That frame and the Chorus gruppo, and you will have one fine ride!
Lemonds are nice.....butslide13
Aug 4, 2003 6:37 AM
I have a Lemond with mostly Chorus, it's a great bike and a wonderful ride but if I was going to drop $3000 for a new ride I would get something custom. I got my Lemond because I work at a Lemond dealer and therefor got a killer deal on it. I'm starting to look at the Waterfords though. I have a thing for lugged steel frames and they seem to do them really well. Custom geometry is always nice.
will do in about a month and a halfrufus
Aug 4, 2003 6:47 AM
will get myself measured by antonio mondonico himself for a handmade mondonico el-os, which i will build up with chorus. probably end up around $3000-3500.
Aug 4, 2003 7:00 AM
no Colnago MXL...dream steel ride. At least for us heavier riders.
Ritchey Road Logic. (nm)jtlmd
Aug 4, 2003 7:05 AM
Steelman SR 525 w/2004 DA nmgtx
Aug 4, 2003 7:08 AM
De Rosa CorumCrankist
Aug 4, 2003 7:30 AM
w/record 10 runs about $3k. I have the Zurich upgraded nearly to the hilt, but lust after the De Rosa, would settle(!) for a Pegoretti.
Pegoretti, my dear man, is not settling. That's my vote -- abill
Aug 4, 2003 7:53 AM
Pegoretti Marcelo. I put together mine, with Record (including Nucleon wheels), for about $3K. Dollar was a little stronger then, but certainly with Chorus you still could do it.
It's a great all around bike. My Fondriest CF P4 is a little stiffer and my Douglas scandium alu is a little lighter, but the Pegoretti really is a great all-rounder.
Colnago Master X-Light/Campy Chorus..DINOSAUR
Aug 4, 2003 7:43 AM
3k would get you on a MXL/Chorus bike if you can handle the geometry, which becomes a problem for some of us when you get into the larger sizes (short TT's). The Lemond is on the opposite end of the spectrum as it has a long TT as Greg Lemond liked to set his saddle as far as 10cm back. Another frame I would consider is a Merckx Corsa, but it has a long tt also. Get fitted first and find out what frames would fit your anatomy and riding style then go from there, it's all about fit....there are a lot of bikes in that price range, probably an endless selection.....
No contestLive Steam
Aug 4, 2003 7:48 AM
Frondriest Status Carb The lightest steel frame made. Build it up with Record and Campy Eurus wheels and you have a mean machine.
Landshark gets my vote.cdhbrad
Aug 4, 2003 7:54 AM
Frame is fully filet brazed and also has the steel fork. Rides great, plus you can get it painted anyway that you can dream of. Won't see yourself coming and going in a big group ride that's for sure. Check out to see what he has in stock.
Landshark gets my vote toostratoshark
Aug 4, 2003 9:43 AM
Owned mine for almost 3 years. It's a big frame with a carbon fork. So smooth, and stiff enough for my primary riding.
Hard to go wrong.Dropped
Aug 4, 2003 10:43 AM
So many wonderful choices mentioned above -- you could not go wrong with any of them.

My personal choice would be a custom Vanilla with Chorus.

Personally, if I was gonna drop $3K on a steel bike, I would go custom without question.
Custom steel w/DA due this week - <$2500moschika
Aug 4, 2003 1:00 PM
my custom, fillet brazed steel Curtlo (OX Platinum), Alpha Q pro fork, with DA components, is due this week at my home. with your budget you'ld still have about $500 left for clothes or a trip to ride you new, etc.
Eddy Merckx MX -Leader , none other like it .nmbill61
Aug 4, 2003 1:35 PM
Crown Jewel with...peter1
Aug 4, 2003 3:24 PM
Centaur. I got a 2002 model with silver head badge, 10-speed Centaur, for $2850 with Speedplay X/2s. or Ultegra. They raised the frame price a bit since then ,but I think you could do it for 3K.

But, a friend just got a sweet Steelman with Ultegra for about $400 less, and I'd be hard pressed to choose between the two. I just always wanted an IF. So maybe you could find a Steelman with Chorus for 3K.
My two Waterford 2200's alwayscoonass
Aug 4, 2003 5:31 PM
draws admirable comments.....but you'd have to save a few more $$$.....