|My Dad says "I'm gonna call Trek and complain"||fz4vgq|
Jul 29, 2003 1:57 PM
|sorry but I'm a long story teller, hope you enjoy.
My parents have always been supportive of my cycling (road & mt. bike) but we never really discuss the specifics. Six or 7 years ago my mother wanted a Mt. bike (hasn't touched dirt yet) so my dad asks me for some guidance. Knowing he is quite the penny pincher I steer him to our local Trek dealer where I have bought plenty of bikes knowing the owner will give us a fair deal and great service. I point my dad towards a Trek 830 for around $250-$300 (don't remember exactly) my dad nearly jumps through the roof! "how much $$$$$$$$ ?" He asks me "why so much money for a bike?" with that I respond by walking him over to the custom Serotta frames on the wall with which he responds "HOLY $HEET, thats nearly half the price of the first home I ever bought". I finally convinced him to buy the 830 instead of some Wally World special and I don't think he's forgotten about it to this day.
So last Sunday night my dad is getting stuff ready for their annual two week camping trip to northern michigan and calls me to ask how many lbs pressure should he put in moms bike tires (it's been sitting in the corner of the garage since last years camping trip), knowing it only gets ridden on paved roads/trails around the campgrounds I tell him 50-60psi. He calls back 5 minutes later saying "damn back tire won't hold any air, I don't know whats wrong with it, it was fine last year when we got back from camping" I ask- dad have you taken the bike to the bike shop once a year for a tune up/check up? "what the hell would I do that for, it's a damn bike not a car" he says. Now knowing the tubes have never been changed and are probably just crusty dry rubber in the tire I stop and pick up two new "cheng shin" tubes at the local wally world (no bike shops open that late on a sunday), grand total a whopping $6.67. I stop by my parents to change out the tubes and give the bike a quick tune up. As soon as I get out of the car my dad is in the garage mumbling something about "spend all that money on a "good" bike for nothing". He looks up and says "what did you buy 2 tubes for? it only needs 1 tube, the front holds air fine" I tell him tubes don't last very long when the bike sits in the garage all year long (7 months of winter) and should be changed every year or two on "moms bike" (with that info I get the "you're crazy stare"). As I'm changing out the tubes he tells me he's gonna call Trek (on their 1-800#) and tell them they need to build better tubes (as if Trek builds tubes) because they only lasted six and a half years and the bike only gets ridden two weeks a year!!!!!
I can't wait to tell him it needs new tires because they're getting dry rotted, a new chain because it's pretty rusty and stiff from sitting so much and brake pads because they're hard as plastic from sitting so much.
And he always gets frustrated when he comes over and see's that I keep my bikes in the house. His exact words - "bikes don't belong inside a house"
I think he would really have a heart attack if I told him I spend thousands every year just on replacement parts such as chains, chainrings, cassettes, tires, tubes, cables, brake pads, bottom brackets, and clothing for my road and mt. bikes.
My in-laws are a whole 'nother story I'll save for some other day.
Some people will just NEVER understand.
|My Wife's Uncle||terry b|
Jul 29, 2003 2:12 PM
|and former Governor of Oregon (recently deceased) told me a story over breakfast a couple of years ago. Seems he went into the local Sears down there in Eugene to buy something and went in through the sporting goods department. Said he took one look at the price tag on the Sears mountain bike, completely forgot what he went in for, turned around and walked right out. Now this is a guy accustomed to running a state! You're right, some will never get it.|
|So what's his addiction?||Spoke Wrench|
Jul 29, 2003 2:54 PM
|If his addiction is shopping around for low prices, just let it go. He's a lost cause and he'll never understand.
If he plays golf, bass fishes, drinks or does almost anything. You might have a chance of comparing and discussing quality differences, but I doubt it.
|re: Man - I feel for you.||Synchronicity|
Jul 29, 2003 4:59 PM
|Just yesterday my Tiso Joe magnesium headset arrived packaged up, and my family was curious. When I told her the "old" one cost about a hundered bucks, she just said "WWHHAATT?!!" She eventually figured out approximately how much the new one cost [she thought US$200], and her eyes were still popping out. I just kept on saying "non expense spared", like the guy in jurassic park. |
However I simply could not bring myself to tell my dad that I paid US$279 for it. He would have just DIED right there! When he asked "How much did that set you back?" I just said, "you *don't* wanna know!".
I bet your dad [like mine] grew up during the great depression!? Mine did. He's not quite as bad as your dad though by the sounds of it. What ever you do, don't tell him how much your bikes+parts are worth. He'll likely disown you for it.
|ROTFLMAO!!!! We must be related,(nm)||94Nole|
Jul 29, 2003 5:12 PM
|This has the makings for a good sitcom.(nm)||94Nole|
Jul 29, 2003 5:12 PM
|My wife's analysis is the best...||MXL02|
Jul 29, 2003 5:23 PM
|She is always complaining about how much I spend on my bikes. Every few weeks another little box gets delivered from Excel, Performance, or CC, and she just rolls her eyes. A couple of weeks ago I was considering buying some new Sidi road shoes for the obligatory $190. Feeling pretty guilty, I asked her about it, and she retorted,
"Well, as long as it's
then it's ok. You can buy as many pairs of shoes as you need." Women's logic??!!!
Jul 29, 2003 5:34 PM
|Well I try and settle my family down abit by admitting I've got a /slight/ obsession with bikes, but it ends there. |
I remind them that I don't own a car. Even if I did I'm not addicted to name brands with everything. I wouldn't care if had a complete & utter total *bomb* of car & whacked a 6 grand bike on top. What I'm saying is I'm certainly not one of those yuppies that needs a matching porsche or whatever to go with the colour-scheme of the bike.
If I go overseas for example, I stay in YHA's, not hotels. And I say that the bike's the only "no expense spared" thing I can afford to own. I don't even have a stereo, instead I have a 5 year old portable CD player. You get the idea.
UNLIKE my brother-in-law who is a genuine snob: he's got to have the absolute best of everything. What it means is that now he only has very little in life.
|This is why I shop at the local LBSs||char|
Jul 29, 2003 7:42 PM
|No damaging UPS/Fedex/USPS boxes on the front porch. The goods are picked up on the way home by bicycle and in the basement for future wrenching. As Johnny Cash sang, I got it one piece at a time...
Still do the occasional mail/internet order (Oh, is that the Tour de France Video?, Why yes it is hon, why don't you put it on the VCR so we can watch it and I'll separate and put the packaging in the recycle bins downstairs) to let her know that I do order stuff occasionaly.
Well one day, she did walk down to the basement despite all the cobwebs I leave hangin' around to discourage such activity - Geez, you have a lot of wheels, how many bikes do you have?
Lots of splainin that day.
|Even better use an alternative address for mail/internet orders.||TNSquared|
Jul 30, 2003 9:28 AM
|If ya pick it up at the LBS ya still gotta sneak it in the house. :)
I have alot of my orders sent to a business that belongs to a friend of mine, and there are two distinct advantages:
1) It gives me time to develop and practice my cost/benefit presentation for the wife after another Excel Blowout impulse buy.
2) It insures that my latest bike toy isn't left on the front porch for all to see and swipe if nobody's home when the UPS guy shows up.
|re: My Dad says "I'm gonna call Trek and complain"||russw19|
Jul 29, 2003 8:21 PM
|"So to you all, the kids all across the land... there's no need to argue, parents just don't understand."
-DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince (aka Will Smith)
|re: My Dad says "I'm gonna call Trek and complain"||xcandrew|
Jul 29, 2003 11:58 PM
|I don't think most tubes rot out unless there's a major ozone source like a big electric motor running constantly where you are storing the bike. I know I'm somewhat frugal, but I do have patched tubes on my mountain bike (that almost never gets flats) that I know to be at least 10 years old and they are fine. And similarly, my mom's bike is rarely ridden and about 20 years old with probably with the original tubes. If I pump them up, I'm sure that they'll hold decent pressure for a couple of weeks like most any new tube. Cracks in the rubber on a tire are not usually harmful either as long as the tire casing is intact. I would have taken a minute to inspect the tube to see if it could be patched before installing a new tube, but that's me.|
|Is your dad Rip Torn by any chance? nm||divve|
Jul 30, 2003 2:58 AM
|re: My Dad says "I'm gonna call Trek and complain"||aliensporebomb|
Jul 30, 2003 3:22 AM
|Hilarious. I have visions in my head of a crusty Abe Vigoda
type complaining about bike tubes. Heh. Thanks for sharing
and I feel your pain, heh.
|re: My Dad says "I'm gonna call Trek and complain"||witcomb|
Jul 30, 2003 3:44 AM
|I just got interested in mtbikes and road bikes this year and have spent a fortune on a new mountain bike, a new road bike, clothes, shoes, pedals, pedals, shoes, helmets, etc etc etc. And oddly enough, I haven't heard anything from my parents. I've been somewhat baffled, my mom actually said, should you get a computer for your road bike. I don't know, maybe they are trying reverse psychology.
I have a feeling it depends on the generation, my parents are in the baby-boomer category. So, they somewhat understand spending their money on things they enjoy. This is probably the primary difference.
I truth, I don't spend money on much of anything so forking it out for my bikes is justified. Maybe they see it this way as well. I'll have to test it and see the reaction I get when I get new skiies this winter.
|man, that was too amusing. ride on! :)||Pinarelloparis|
Jul 30, 2003 4:46 AM
|man, that was too amusing. ride on! :)||Mike M|
Jul 30, 2003 6:21 AM
|OK, my version. I was complaining to my mom one visit how we needed a new couch and that there was holes in it from wear but the cost of furniture, yada yada. SO later in the day we are in the basement and I see her curiously looking at my bikes hanging up, mentally calculating the cost. She looks at me and says " Go out and buy your family a new couch". I now have a beautiful living room set to go with those nice bikes in the basement.
Fortunately for me my wife rarely complains about my bike purchases. She only asks "how many can you ride at one time?"
|wife only asks "how many bikes can you ride at one time?"||innergel|
Jul 30, 2003 11:27 AM
|Ask your wife how many pair of "black pumps", or whatever they are called, can she wear at one time? Or how many purses she can carry at one time?
This technique is called "reversing the whip" and it works like a charm :-)
|I have the opposite problem||Kristin|
Jul 30, 2003 7:39 AM
|My dad's a retired Naval nuclear engineer who could build anything in his shop. Including bike frames. But he'd rather see me pay thousands and thousands of dollars and let the "other guy" build it. I've just decided I like kayaking very much and want to take it up as a new hobby. Its a great compliment to cycling. However, I can't really justify the purchase at this time. Now, my father used to build fiberglass canoes as well as complete custom deep-sea fishing yachts. So I asked him if he could build me a kayak and I'd pay for all the materials, help out and buy him some very nice steaks. He said, "Naw, why don't you just buy one, they only cost a few hunder dollars." Thanks dad.|| |