|Which ITALIAN manufacturers still make steel LUGGED frames?||hank1970|
Jul 27, 2003 12:41 PM
|re: Which ITALIAN manufacturers still make steel LUGGED frames?||desmo|
Jul 27, 2003 1:31 PM
|Colnago, Mondonico, Gios, come to mind. I'm sure there's others as well.|
|What ever happened to Bottechia?||plowhorse|
Jul 28, 2003 6:18 AM
|I had one back in the late 80's (the post-Lemond craze) and loved it. Being young and foolish, I got rid of it so that I could experience something cool called 'click-shift'. Sigh.|
Jul 28, 2003 11:57 AM
|Basically, the company went belly-up around 1996. The name has been sold and the Bottecchia marque now rests on Tig-welded, aluminum, Asian imported frames.
Here's a photo of one of mine.
|check them out:||FORT-Cyclist|
Jul 27, 2003 1:51 PM
|Cinelli Super Corsa..... nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 27, 2003 4:22 PM
|Italians actually living in Italy OR...||theBreeze|
Jul 27, 2003 6:12 PM
|would you accept Italians living in Cananda. Marinoni's are made by actual Italians (and their decendents by now) living in Montreal. Lovely lugged steel. One of the most beautiful paint jobs I ever saw was a lugged steel Marinoni with a blue to silver to green fade, full Dura Ace. Unfortunatly just a tad outside my price range. They do nice chrome work on chain stays, drop outs and forks.|
|re: Which ITALIAN manufacturers still make steel LUGGED frames?||Lone Gunman|
Jul 27, 2003 6:38 PM
|F. Moser, Pro Evolution. Not 100% it is still available, $900 or so, www.redroseimports.com and/or Vernon cycle.|
Jul 27, 2003 7:34 PM
|or "Comp Line" as they now seem to be calling it. Lugged steel (Dedaccai COM 12.5) and reasonably priced. My local wrench also commented on another "old world" technique on mine that he says he doesn't see much anymore involving nails inside some of the lugs (bottom bracket), but I can't remember what he called it.
Lugs aren't chrome, though, if that matters.
p.s. I love mine.
Jul 28, 2003 7:07 AM
|when the frame is on the jig, rather than hold the tubes in alignment for later full brazing by spot brazing(or welding in the case of TIG), the builder pins the tube to the lug with small pins, which are later filed down flush.
in this way, the tubes are only heated once, theoretically preserving more of the tubes strength than if it was heated twice due to spot brazing.
|Thanks, that's it! nm||vindicator|
Jul 28, 2003 7:48 AM
Jul 27, 2003 8:01 PM
|The Tecno and Sintesi are fine examples.|
|re: Which ITALIAN manufacturers still make steel LUGGED frames?||Sadlebred|
Jul 28, 2003 4:20 AM
|Casati. I ride one myself.
Jul 28, 2003 4:46 AM
|GIOS and Colnago||tarwheel|
Jul 28, 2003 5:03 AM
|The GIOS Compact Pro is steel with chrome lugs and stays (and fork if you choose). A real bargain at www.excelsports.com |
Also, don't forget the Colnago Master X Lite -- perhaps the cream of the crop.
|Most of them.||MXL02|
Jul 28, 2003 6:19 AM
|Colnago, DeRosa, Cinelli, Bianchi, Olmo...|
Jul 28, 2003 7:14 AM
|re: Which ITALIAN manufacturers still make steel LUGGED frames?||Gofaster|
Jul 28, 2003 8:27 AM
|Milano - made by Alberto Masi. In the 1970's Faliero Masi )father) and Alberto Masi (son) made frames at the vigorelli in Milan. Dad moved to California, and made American Masi's; son stayed in Italy & made Italian Masi's that were not supposed to be imported into the US. A few years ago Alberto (still in Italy) changed the name to Milano bikes. He makes some new tig welded & aluminum frames, but still hand pins & hand brazes lugged steel. Chromed box-crown fork on my 1977 +/- Italian (Alberto) built Prestige frame is an incredibly beautiful blend of form and function. See Milano3v.com (site for Connecticutt (sp?) importer). No, I don't work for 'em, but I'm thinking of buying a new Milano frame from 'em. Good luck - Kelly|
|Why not Belgian lugged steel: Eddy Merckx MX leader ?nm||bill61|
Jul 28, 2003 6:49 PM