|If UCI didnt have their heads up their....||ClydeTri|
Jul 23, 2003 4:26 AM
|you know what..this is what Lance should look like on the time trials!|
Jul 23, 2003 4:55 AM
|The Y-Foil existed and was legal for a few years, but no pros (to my knowledge) ever used them. While aero, they were not the most aerodynamic thing on the market at the time. It's nice and all, going up against the double-diamonds of today - but they couldn't compete with the Hotta and Lotus bikes of their era.|
Jul 23, 2003 6:58 AM
|I had seen somewhere on a Y-Foil site that the '99 USPS team was to use Foils at the TdF for TT's. The TdF officials said "no" and the team went with some re-badged GT TT bikes. I can remember that Indurain and Ullrich used some pretty funky designs for their TT bikes in the past. I guess Trek missed the boat?|
|I can pretty well say that none of that is true,||TJeanloz|
Jul 23, 2003 7:08 AM
|In 1999, Lance rode a Litespeed TT bike, and the rest of the team rode custom aluminum Treks. The UCI had already banned the really exotic bikes from competition.
Y-foil owners, like many cycling enthusiasts, believe their bike is the best ever built - but it really was not all that they crack it up to be.
|What year for the ban?||cydswipe|
Jul 23, 2003 7:17 AM
|What year was that ban on the exotic bikes happen? I remember Foils being promoted as a "touring" bike? For the RockShox Ruby to be used with? I like my Foil. I agree, there are better bike out there. It is very discouraging to find upgrades for it. Like the front fork for example. What was your take on the Foils TJ?|
|What year for the ban?||ZeGopha|
Jul 23, 2003 7:34 AM
|The ban was either 97 or 98. For some reason I want to say it was 98. I prefered the tour before the ban personally, I think the UCI is slowing down the sport.|
|What year for the ban?||TJeanloz|
Jul 23, 2003 9:20 AM
|1998 was the first year that non-standard frames were banned from UCI competition.
I think the Y-Foil design is very well suited to touring. The extended beam makes for a very plush ride, and it is a tough bike. It is not, however, an extraordinarily aerodynamic frame. John Cobb, who's opinion I highly respect, had this to say about it when he was asked which wheels would be more aero for a Y-Foil:
"The Trek Y-foil was aerodynamically challenged, heavy and not very adjustable. Vector Comps were actually pretty fast wheels so I'd save the money on new wheels and get a different frame."
Bottom line is that it is just not a very aero bike, and I don't believe it was ever destined for a ride in France.
Jul 23, 2003 7:32 AM
|I remember it being 1998..the first year of Yfoil production and marketing...the foils were suposedly in france and beign tested by USPS when the UCI ruling came down...|
|He's bonking! A 39x25 gearing on the flats! Lost 15 pounds! nm||Brooks|
Jul 23, 2003 2:58 PM