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Is there any help for my friend, "Fred"?(12 posts)

Is there any help for my friend, "Fred"?bent_spoke
Jul 22, 2003 3:53 PM
I connected by e-mail with an old friend who I haven't seen in over 20 years. He mentions that he rides so we plan to get together....He tells me he has a Litespeed & I'm thinking, "cool!!, we'll go out & ride!!".

Anyway, I show up & he come out wearing a tank top, padless shorts, running shoes, no gloves & no helmet!? He does have a ti Litespeed (Vortex, I think), but he hasn't gotten use to his Nike shoes & Look clipless peddles. I still cann't believe that we take off with him pedaling the LS in running shoes, tank top & no helmut. As you might imagine, he got ignored by almost everyone that rode by. Luckily, I rode behind, as I don't know his neighborhood.

Oh yeah, I did tell him that I really shouldn't be riding with him 'cause he didn't have a helmet. Also, to explain, the LS came along as a replacement for his 20yr old bike & because his son was working at an LBS & insisted that the "LS was a deal of a lifetime, etc, etc.". I told him that he had a "good son", at least in giving him the scoop on the LS. But, his son obviously skipped over a few of the finer points. Is this hopeless or what??? I'm dying to catch up with his son to get the rest of the story.
re: Is there any help for my friend, "Fred"?amlpeterson
Jul 22, 2003 4:10 PM
I understand that you might not like his appreal. I ride a very nice bike. Shimano Ultegra, Bontrager Race X-lites, Scattante Zonal Frame, Easton EC-90 Fork, Look P396 pedals, The whole kit. I also ride a Selle Italia Saddle SLR. Now, I have a very nice bike in my oppion. Being only 18 and a working student this is the best I can afford. Comes in at about 16.5 lbs.
But I ride in compression shorts, with loose fitting Nike shorts over them. Coulped with a wife beater, long sleeve, or no shirt (depends on the time and temp). No helmet, even though I have a nice one. No gloves. Find both the helmet and gloves to be uncomfortable. The shirt and shorts thing is probably a lack of money. Anyways, the point I'm tring to get at, is that while he might not look the way you might think is right, in the end, it only matters who is faster. For many times people accuse me of looking stupid, then I challange them, and they look stupid. Then, we can decide who needs help. The slower one needs the most I would say
I challege you
Jul 22, 2003 4:33 PM
to wear your bike helmet! You are young and I know how you young ones like to not be all that reasonable, and think you are smarter and invincible. It does not matter who is faster, by the way!

Did he use his tennis shoe's with the Look pedals??Kristin
Jul 22, 2003 4:11 PM
That would be kinda funny. It sounds like he's not really a "roadie" and didn't have any intensions of becoming one. You could tell him that he's not cool enough, doesn't fit the your definition of a cyclist, and refuse to ride with him. But that would make you a jerk and a bad friend. Just keep riding with him. Eventually he'll complain about his sore ass, and you can tell him about chamois. Or he'll b$tch about how drenched his shirt is and you praise the qualities of coolmax. Encourage him to keep trying the road shoes and cleats. They really do increase your speed and make riding easier. Most importantly, there is a lesson you can learn from him too. Image isn't everything.
These posts get so old.......Dave Hickey
Jul 22, 2003 4:22 PM
Your friend was obviously comfortable wearing his clothes. It appears that YOU where the one that was uncomfortable. Maybe your friend needs a new riding partner.............

Sorry to sound so harsh, but who cares what other people wear. Your helmet comment is valid but what your friend chooses wear is his business. If you don't like what he wears, don't ride with him....
Couldn't agree with you more........abicirider
Jul 22, 2003 4:39 PM
Who cares what he wears, but the helmet part he needs to wear a lid, after all at least he his out there riding not sitting on the couch, let him be want he wants.
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!
Ray Still
Mooresville, NC
On some other Internet forum somewhere, "Fred"geeker
Jul 22, 2003 6:22 PM
is posting about his long-lost friend who, after 20 years, turned out to be a bike snob. ;-)
"obviously skipped over a few of the finer points"Steve_0
Jul 23, 2003 3:44 AM
...ahhh yes, the finer points in cycling.... wearing diaperesqe plastic shorts, plastic-neon jerseys, duck-walk shoes, and gloves in the summertime.

Yes, it certainly sounds as if it's your friend who needs a lesson in how to enjoy cycling.
easy fixandy02
Jul 23, 2003 11:19 AM
first tell him to wear a lid then tell him that if he can get over the pedal fear he will enjoy the bike more. Once he knows the pedals are better (everyone loves them once they adjust) he will trust you about the other gear. Just make sure he keeps riding!
Jul 23, 2003 5:15 PM
I did tell him that he should get a helmut. I also mentioned that the cloths added to comfort, but I didn't make a big deal out of it. (Actually, I probably looked pretty strange to him.) I passed along a few tips for buying on-line in case he doesn't have a connection at the lbs anymore. I added a few stories of my own about dumping my bike because of the shoes & hopefully he'll continue. (I'm out of state so we probably won't ride too much).

The funny thing is that my friend's a graphic artist who I always thought had a sense of style...I guess this isn't it for him, at least not right now. That threw me off, but other than the helmut, it really doesn't matter much. Besides, he had his Porche Carrea parked in the garage and he's an driving instructor for his club. Hopefully, I'll get to go down to the track with him some day & be a "Fred" of sorts there.
Jul 24, 2003 5:21 AM
there's NOTHING less stylish than bike clothes. Perhaps that's his problem.

Anyhoo, keep riding with him so you get your turn behind the wheel!
I'm amazed53T
Jul 24, 2003 5:28 AM
How can you be so isolated? You think you might have looked strange to him? That's certainly an understatement. Right now he is honestly wondering if you have turned gay. What do you think the rest of the public thinks about guys who wear lycra?

I'm sure you encouraged him to use clipless by telling hime horror stories about how they make you fall down in traffc. I like the way you prioritized buying stuff as one of the main things he needs to know about cycling.

Your friend does have a sense of style. You are a snob. I feel better now.