|ever do a long ride you were totally unprepared for?||DougSloan|
Jul 21, 2003 9:03 AM
|Made a decision to do the Climb to Kaiser this Saturday. 155 miles, 13,500 feet climbing up to 9,300 feet elevation. Cold at the top, hotter than hell the last 30 miles. Finished it twice (12:04, 11:02) and DNF'd once (stomach problems).
However, this year training has sucked, and the last 3 weeks did nothing but mountain bike 1-3 hours at a time. Haven't even done a century for 3 months.
Wasn't going to even try, as did have a trial scheduled for July 22, but it was postponed to August 5.
Should be interesting. Without spoiling, I'll just say that something happened today that inspired me. Any advice from those who have done equally stupid things?
|yeah, Ironman Florida......||african|
Jul 21, 2003 9:14 AM
|I was fit and in shape, but only really started training 16 weeks before, then 4 weeks before the race I took a 2 week break and rode only 30 miles in those 2 weeks, I went to Vegas and goofed off for 4 days. Then my knee started clicking 2 weeks before the race, it still clicks today. Anyway, race went ok did 12:04
Ride would have been a lot faster but I had to leak about 6 times on the ride and that took time off.
Jul 21, 2003 9:26 AM
|btw - your supposed to just replace your saddle after the race; so you dont hafta stop.|
|What the heck, we learn by our foolish mistakes ...||Humma Hah|
Jul 21, 2003 9:16 AM
|... you know the sad tale of my first epic, about 30 years ago, when I attempted a solo double-century on the cruiser. My best training ride leading up to that was a 35-mile ride that climbed a 500-ft mountain pass twice, my longest and hardest day ever at that point.
Poorly-prepared as I was, I made it 130 miles before experiencing my first grand-mal bonk.
You couldn't POSSIBLY be THAT badly prepared. I think you'll probably suffer, but survive.
|re: ever do a long ride you were totally unprepared for?||PdxMark|
Jul 21, 2003 9:16 AM
|Revert to the basics.... control pace, especially early in the ride, take-in enough food and water before and during the ride, and a good night's sleep the night before...
And don't ride the Pista
|Oh, as for my lesson (or one of them)...||PdxMark|
Jul 21, 2003 9:21 AM
|An easy 50 mile solo ride that on a whim turned into an 85 mile 5000 foot ride just 1 Clifbar for fuel. Slow ride home...|
|now *that's* funny||DougSloan|
Jul 21, 2003 2:19 PM
|The Pista? I'm spending half of today putting my triple gears on the EV2 just so I can slog up the 18% grades. The Pista? I wouldn't make it to the first water stop. Funny.
I guess I'll try riding absurdly slow at first, then back off, like someone mentioned.
|it's what i live for nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Jul 21, 2003 9:20 AM
|I'll let you know in about 2 1/2 weeks.||Mel Erickson|
Jul 21, 2003 9:21 AM
|After my 130 mile solo tour with 5,000 ft. of climbing. I've done one century in the last 2 months and lately training has been sporadic. Lukily most of the climbing (4,000 ft.) is a steady 4% grade over about 20 miles and the final 30 miles is rolling and slightly downhill. I also won't have to contend with any extreme temperature changes. However, in comparison to some of your exploits this is a major challenge for me.|
|Sort of.||KG 361|
Jul 21, 2003 9:31 AM
|I did a metric century 2 yrs ago that I THOUGHT that I was preparred for. Did some hills around here thinking that I would breeze through it. Now I know that a metric isn't that long, but it did have 6500 ft of climbing (read-you are either going up or down-no flats!) and that was the most I've ever done. Needless to say, I suffered like a dog, as the OLN boys might say. I did make it and that experience has really made me a better, more prepared climber (not that I'm really a climber at 6' 185lbs, but I don't s*ck as much now!). I suspect you'll do fine. Just, as they say, "stay within yourself".|
|I'm doing the Tollhouse 100||Straightblock|
Jul 21, 2003 9:45 AM
|and I'm not prepared for it either. I had a family obligation that I had known about for months, and I had not expected to ride at all on the 26th, but that changed in the last few days. If I had been able to plan ahead I might have trained for Kaiser, or at least been better prepared for this one.|
|come on, let's do the whole thing||DougSloan|
Jul 21, 2003 2:20 PM
|Misery loves company. Come slog it out with me. ;-)
|Tempting, but I know my limits||Straightblock|
Jul 21, 2003 9:48 PM
|and even the 100 miler will be enough of a test right now. The full Kaiser route was much easier during the inaugural ride in 1977 (or was it 1978?) when I was 21 years old & 6% body fat and could turn a 42x24 up Big Creek. I think I'd need to ditch the 39x25 I have now for something lower. Besides, it's Mrs. Straightblock's birthday Saturday and she's coming back from a week out of town that afternoon, and I think she's expecting something like a nice dinner out, not me crawling home at dark, begging for a leg massage, then crashing out for the night.
I ran into a riding buddy from the old days in Save Mart tonight. He's here from out of state & doing Kaiser. He's trying to goad me into doing it, too. I think I'll start early with him and the Kaiser group,then peel off for the 100, so I'll look for you at the start. I'll be on a semi-compact Bianchi, Celeste of course.
Jul 21, 2003 10:05 AM
|on 20 miles a week since May, and one 75-miler (with 3000ft over 12 miles starting at 50 miles), as a test. The 75-miler was the longest ride I'd ever done.
In endurance sports, background counts for a lot. I think it's partly the physiology, that the body is used to going long; partly pacing, that your perceived exertion is an accurate measure of the actual toll. An ultramarathoning background was what I hoped would carry me through. Given that you've done several years of this kind of thing, you'll do fine.
Start slow, then taper off (as Walt Stack used to say); eat and drink early, often, and in large quantities; remember it's supposed to be fun, in a perverse, qualified sort of way. I mostly had fun apart from a brief hiatus on Vail pass.
Jul 21, 2003 10:24 AM
|Agreed with a friend that I would do part of his 60mile trip from college to home with him - intending to do about the same distance. Left him at about 35miles so figured I was now looking at 70 round-trip and was feeling good so went off hard on my own. Got lost! Round-trip - 110miles - totally wiped out because I was just drinking water and didn't eat at all.|
|New Orleans to Daytona Beach||dzrider|
Jul 21, 2003 10:27 AM
|Flew to New Orleans, ran the marathon, took a day off and did the ride. Never rode more than 75 miles before that and had never fixed a flat. There were some struggles and mistakes, but I took it easy and made it in 8 days for 760 very flat miles.
You've been to the other side of the wall and know how to survive this kind so while the idea may be stoopid, the execution doesn't have to be. Hydrate, eat well and take your sweet-ass time. A really big cassette might help, too.
|Every ride I do!||Jeff Rage|
Jul 21, 2003 2:03 PM
|Ok, I'm new to road riding. I did a 10 mile "test ride" my first time out. Last week, I somehow managed to do a 30 mile ride. But if that wasn't enough, I let some of my friends tlak me into a 50 mile trip on Saturday. That I was not prepared for!
I did alright, except that my legs cramped up when we made a stop at a 7-11. And my butt wasn't happy when we were done!
|Yeah...but I wouldn't be ready for THAT if I trained 5 years||cory|
Jul 21, 2003 2:39 PM
|When I got back into road cycling in my 40s, after about 15 years as a runner, a friend talked me into doing the Plumas-Sierra Century on a base of about 20 miles a week. It's a modest little ride with a couple of good-sized (to me) climbs. Took me right on eight hours, if you don't count the three-week recovery period. I've done it since in two hours less, but it really kicked my butt at the time.
Climb to Kaiser is way out of that league, and I wouldn't presume to advise anybody who's even contemplating it. Start slow and drink lots of water. Hasn't it been running about 105 degrees down there this week?
Jul 21, 2003 7:41 PM
|Hopefully, I'll be slow enough that I'll hit the valley later in the evening this time, rather than in the peak of the temp around 4 pm as usual.
Went and did some testing on a nearby 18% grade this afternoon, and my bike computer showed 113-115 degrees in places. At that temp, I start feeling really slow.
At least most of the ride is early morning or at high altitude. It can almost be cold at the summit.
This could be stupid.
|My first century||Leroy|
Jul 21, 2003 2:41 PM
|was about a month ago. I had not trained, or ridden, for about 3 weeks beforehand because of weather, work, whatever. I went on and rode it and it just about killed me, but I finished. I'm glad I did it. I rode another 100 mile ride the next weekend. I just couldn't start slow, and did not drink enough fluids. Now I know how to avoid those cramps. A real lesson. Good luck with yours; it'll probably work out fine.|| |