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Unfinished business -- hydration and UCI TT regulations (spoiler)(8 posts)

Unfinished business -- hydration and UCI TT regulations (spoiler)BergMann
Jul 20, 2003 10:29 AM
A simple question that I have yet to find the answer to: why didn't Lance take on more water when he ran out? Would the 10 meter penalties have proven too extravagant if Bruyneel had driven up along side him, or is support on TT stages forbidden across the board?

If we have any UCI-cognoscenti lurking out there, I'd be interested in the rulebook fine print.

A final observation: Ullrich also appeared to be riding with just one water bottle. I still find it hard to believe that Lance _started_ the race thirsty and did nothing about it both before and during the race.
re: Unfinished business -- hydration and UCI TT regulationsJon Billheimer
Jul 20, 2003 11:25 AM
Anyone who believes the pr schlock being put out by the USPS machine probably also believes in the tooth fairy!
No offense Jon, but where did you get your insider info?Kerry Irons
Jul 20, 2003 5:50 PM
With all due respect Jon, you're making this up just as much as you accuse Lance, Chris Carmichael, Johnan Bruneel, et. al. Do you have any actual data to share, or are you just so sure of yourself that you know you can't be wrong?
What Jon may be trying to say is..gav
Jul 20, 2003 9:39 PM
That it doesn't seem overly believable that a high performance athlete with the amount of support that Lance has would be the victim of a mistake like that.. I'm under the impression that Lance goes as far as weighing his meals, and by extension, you would figure that every ml of water that Lance takes in would be regulated and part of a grand master plan.. I think that perhaps Lance is just not giving Ullrich enough credit for his amazing ride.. If Jan had not beaten him, Lance would have been singing a different tune.. That being said, I think that Lance still had a very good ride, coming in second, but Jan and Vino had amazing time trials. And Lance, rather than acknowledging that his competitors had great days, is making up an excuse to cover up his perceived failure when I don't think that he really had to. He raced a good time trial and got beat. That does happen from time to time, even to great athletes..
Look at Armstrong's face at the end of the TT...OffTheBack
Jul 21, 2003 3:20 AM
... and you will see a huge crust of salt around his lips. His mouth looks like a margarita glass. I think that's a sign of dehydration, and that he is telling the truth. I agree that it seems like an improbable mistake for a guy who is so meticulous with his diet, but for whatever reason, it did happen.

One question I would like to ask Lance & Johan, though, is why wear an unventilated helemt in 100 degree heat? Seems like staying cooler would be worth a bit of aerodynamic drag.
Unventilated helmet,TJeanloz
Jul 21, 2003 4:57 AM
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but an aero helmet has, I believe, the second largest impact on aerodynamics (after a disc wheel). There is no way you would give that up under any circumstances.
No offense Jon, but where did you get your insider info?Jon Billheimer
Jul 21, 2003 6:59 AM
As gav said below, Lance could not have dehydrated that much in the space of a one hour time trial. If he did lose 5 kilos much of it would have had to have been lost prior to the stage, if he were ill and vomiting for instance. Dr. Ferrari also said as much.
So no one knows the actual rules? I can speculate on my own!BergMann
Jul 22, 2003 7:57 AM
Um, Jon, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Lance and all the other boys rode the course once in the morning in training, and that Lance had a roller warmup session before the starting gate as well. Add that to the fact that in 35 degree heat you sweat every time you even think about going outdoors, and you have to figure Lance had _at least_ 3 hours of exposure to the heat over the course of the morning.

I'm also quite incredulous regarding the Postal party line, which is why I asked for _facts_ about whether or not Lance could have had more water if he wanted it on the road.