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Saw this about Hamilton on Velonews this morning....(spoiler)(9 posts)

Saw this about Hamilton on Velonews this morning....(spoiler)Ligon
Jul 17, 2003 5:57 AM
Roche: Hamilton show is "bad for cycling"

Tyler Hamilton's brave bid to finish the Tour de France has been dubbed "ridiculous" and worthy of some candle-lighting in the religious city of Lourdes by former Tour de France winner Stephen Roche.

The Irishman, who in 1987 won the Tour, the Giro and the world championships, feels the brouhaha surrounding the American rider's efforts are doing the sport no favours.

Hamilton has been racing with a double fracture of his collarbone,
diagnosed by the Tour's official doctor, since a mass crash marred the Tour's first stage on July 6.

The 32-year-old CSC team leader, who had been expected to gain a top five finish in the centenary race, has been given painkilling injections and his bike has been adapted so that he can ride in less pain.

He survived three days in the Alps and even managed to attack Lance
Armstrong, his former boss at U.S. Postal, on the daunting climb up the Alpe d'Huez.

But Roche, who saw his own team-mate Pascal Simon crash out with a shoulder injury while wearing the yellow jersey during the 1987 Tour, is not convinced.

"It's definitely been blown out of proportion. It's totally ridiculous," Roche told AFP prior to the start of the 11th stage from Narbonne to Toulouse.

"If the doctor says it's broken or fractured then he shouldn't be racing.
It's as simple as that and if he falls off the bike then his shoulder could be sevrely damaged," added Roche, who feels that Hamilton's determination to finish the race after his successful season so far is bad for the sport.

"I mean, it's not doing any favours for the image of cycling. For the past few years cycling has been getting its act together (vis-a-vis doping) and the commentators on TV are going mad about Hamilton - 'he's in the saddle, and
he's out of the saddle etc etc'.

"But I think all he and his team are doing is giving the public a gun to shoot us with.

"People watching what's happening are going to be asking themselves, 'is this guy for real' or they are going to be saying 'what kind of sh!t (drugs) are they giving him?'

"Sitting in the saddle with a fractured collarbone is hard enough, getting up out of the saddle is even harder, and attacking is almost impossible."

Hamilton is in fifth place, 1min 52sec behind Armstrong ahead of Thursday's 11th stage.

Roche says the American might achieve his aims - if he lights a candle or
two in the holy city of Lourdes, where the sick and crippled seek miracles.

"A top five finish? I think it's still possible. He got through the Alps okay and so the Pyrenees shouldn't be any problem.

"We'll be passing nearby Lourdes soon, so maybe he should light a candle."
and I thought bob roll had some dumb things to say. (nm)sievers11
Jul 17, 2003 6:24 AM
agree; pure speculation and stupid nmDougSloan
Jul 17, 2003 6:41 AM
Roche needs to lay off the single-malts.El Guapo
Jul 17, 2003 7:01 AM
He is a Tour winner only because LeMond got shot in the hip and couldn't participate. Now Roche pipes in with this diatribe that can be best summarized as "loony."
Say What??????russw19
Jul 17, 2003 8:02 PM
Maybe you need a refresher... in '87, Roche won the Giro, the Tour, and the Worlds! And nobody could touch him that year. Well, except for Pedro Delgado who tested positive for a non-banned testosterone masking drug.

Roche was well known in the peloton to be squeaky clean when it comes to drugs. The only three things he was known to take were B-12 injections, Aspirin, and Vitamin C.

By the way, LeMond was shot in the chest... he still has buckshot imbedded in the lining of his heart. The doctor's couldn't remove it for fear they would damage his heart worse.

But Roche's "loony diatribe" is best understood when you know a bit about the man and how much he was against doping.

What's his beef...biknben
Jul 17, 2003 8:14 AM
He complains about unsafe riders continuing injured, TFD doctors, doping, and the "media bruhaha". Pick one and make a point. Sounds like a bitter old fart who decided to take advantage of a little air time to vent.
Very jumbled...Dwayne Barry
Jul 17, 2003 8:44 AM
but I think the essence of his beef is that at a time when cycling is trying to clean-up it's imagine a guy who is using drugs to compete is being heralded as a hero.

Ironic because I think Stephen Roche is one of the people fingered in Willy Voet's book, but I'm not too sure about that.
But he's not doping in order to stay in the race...biknben
Jul 17, 2003 11:30 AM
Tyler's journal mentions the use of pain killers but gets no more specific than that. I assume anything he is taking is within the UCI rules. The authorities aren't going to let him take illegal stuff in order to continue. Is aspirin a banned substance?

If Roche considers something like that to be doping, he needs to get his head out of his a$$. That's like saying consuming a recovery drink is cheating.
Jul 17, 2003 11:41 AM
Was it the author of the story or Roche who didn't make sense? Roche meandered around different subjects like he was Grandpa Simpson.
Man, I imagine the reporter sitting there with that frozen, uncomfortable smile like he's at a Mike Tyson press conference: "Heh heh, is this guy kidding? Should I be scared?"