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Frame Vs. Components(6 posts)

Frame Vs. Componentsharryd
Jul 16, 2003 5:37 PM
Given a budget, what is more important - the frame or the components hanging on it? It seems like each frame manufacturer has its own gimmicks and marketing down pat, but the components are all the same. so would one go with a higher end frame and skimp on tires groupos etc, or a lower end frame and hang Dura Ace and Mavics on it?
re: Frame Vs. ComponentsRusty Coggs
Jul 16, 2003 6:38 PM
The frame. Components aren't all the same either. A Huffy or Trek 1000 frame with DA or Record, gimmie a break.
The frame is where it's at.niteschaos
Jul 16, 2003 6:47 PM
To tell you the truth I've had good experiences with Shimano's components from Tiagra to Ultegra. Tiagra isn't a crisp after 5000 miles of riding in the rain as Ultegra may be, but the main thing I've noticed is that what seperates component levels more and more is just the mass and materials used.

If you go with a good frame you will enjoy it long after the components are replaced. Think of it like a woman. Is it more important how she is dressed, or how she 'rides'?

[let the hate mail begin]
Bucking the trend but Components for me!LC
Jul 16, 2003 8:34 PM
I can burn thru cheap components in a few months and then end up spending more money replacing them than if I would have got good ones to start with. The deraileurs/shifters quickly get sloppy and start to auto-shift. Cheap wheel and BB bearings wear out very quick. Even something like cheap seatposts, handlebars, and stems are very heavy and add more weight than the difference between a expensive frame and a budget frame. Wheels are rotating weight and heavy/cheap ones can really be hard to spin up quickly. Tires are the biggest difference in the feel of a bike and cheap ones are not only heavy and make the bike feel dead, but don't grip the road as well. Saddle, well do you really want to torture yourself on a cheap saddle? Not me! I will take the cheap frame please.
How about both??Dave Hickey
Jul 17, 2003 3:43 AM
When I look for a new frame, I search the internet for new old stock frames that are 2-4 years old. I've bought top of line framesets for a fraction of what they sold for new. The way I look at it, if it was good enough for the pro peloton 3 years ago, it's good enough for me.
How about both??MShaw
Jul 17, 2003 10:58 AM
I just got a last year's S-Works frame for cheap because it was (Gasp!) last year's frame. Still brand new, still awesome-riding, still A LOT less than a new one. Just doesn't have this year's decals, or the "fairing" behind the seattube.

There is such a thing as trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, so you have to decide how nice of parts are you going to put on that low-end frame? The advantage to buying the nice parts and a so-so frame is that you can go upgrade the frame later (and assuming you haven't trashed them) keep the same components.