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Tires: Conti GP 4-Season vs. Ultra Gatorskin?(6 posts)

Tires: Conti GP 4-Season vs. Ultra Gatorskin?vindicator
Jul 16, 2003 12:08 PM
I've been using Conti Ultra Gatorskins as my "general" tire, with lots of commuting and training miles. Since I don't own a spare set of wheels (Santa, can you hear me?) and I'm too lazy to change tires that often, I've been using them for the weekly practice crits and even one road race as well.

I've been very pleased with the infrequency of punctures vs. some of the other tires I was using before, and the handling/traction seem fine as well.

As best I can tell, the Grand Prix 4-Season is also advertised as having extra puncture resistance. It's folding vs. wire bead and a bit lighter. Any other differences between these two tires? Better traction/handling on the GP? Is the puncture resistance the same, lesser, or greater on the GP vs. the Ultra?

Mixed results...biknben
Jul 16, 2003 12:16 PM
I'm using both tires. In my experience, the 4-season offers all the benefits of the GP3000 with just an extra layer in the tread and a reinforcing weave on the sidewall.

The Gatorskin seems more like a touring tire. It wears better than the 4-season. Ironically I've gotten more flats with the Gator.

If your gonna use them for training races and such I'd go with the 4-season.

Go with the Conti GP 4-Season with one caveatboneman
Jul 16, 2003 1:47 PM
Like BikeBen, I've used both but I would say that the Gatorskin has been in my experience more resistant to glass punctures than the GP4 and I live in the land of glass London. NYC and Boston don't even come close. If you don't have a massive glass problem you won't notice the difference and the GP4 is a much more lively tire than the Ultra.

The one caveat is that despite their claims about the GP4 tread compound, IMHO it's one of the worst tires I've ever ridden in wet conditions. Dangerous and not progressive. It starts to go and there's no recovery. Again, where I am you ride a lot in the rain/wet/greasy road conditions.

If you ride in mostly dry conditions, GP4 is a good choice although I would recommend the Schwalbe Neo Pro Blizzard.
re: Tires: Conti GP 4-Season vs. Ultra Gatorskin?c722061
Jul 16, 2003 3:35 PM
I use Conti GP 4-season and the tires wear out real fast, faster than any cheaper tires that I own. I am not sure about Ultra Gatorskin.
re: Tires: Conti GP 4-Season vs. Ultra Gatorskin?jtolleson
Jul 16, 2003 6:02 PM
They are really two different kinds of tires. The GP 4-season still has the relatively sticky (and yes, more wearable) tread of the Grand Prix 3000. The "all season" is just reinforced in the sidewalls. The Gatorskin is more of a hard rubber, long wearing, puncture resistant tire that won't necessarily compete with the ride quality (IMO) of the Conti.

For a middle of the road option, check out the Michelin Axial Carbon.
Thanks, all!vindicator
Jul 17, 2003 6:03 AM
I definitely want to maximize tread life and puncture resistance for my commuting and training rides, so it looks like I'll stick with the Gatorskins for now, and shoot for a second set of wheels for Christmas I can outfit with more performance-oriented tires for practice crits and racing.