|Question for carbon crank users: do you notice a difference?||Dave Hickey|
Jul 15, 2003 10:20 AM
|Or is it just the cool factor.... I'm really considering a set for my latest ride. I'll admit it, I think they look great and that would be my primary motivation. Are there really any other benefits? Weight is within a couple of grams of Dura Ace. For what it's worth, I'm thinking of the the Wayless Carbon Team at Supergo for $249.00.|
Jul 15, 2003 10:50 AM
|Very cool indeed. I weighed mine in comparison to DA. My FSAs with the bolt were lighter than the DAs without the bolt. I can't remember exactly now, however, the total difference for the pair ended up being about 50-70 grams I think.
Any noticeable difference? Nope. If I were blindfolded I'd likely not be able to tell any difference between Record/Chorus/DA/FSA/Ultegra.
|Thanks, That's what I thought. I'm still going to buy them:-)||Dave Hickey|
Jul 15, 2003 10:54 AM
|They look so darn sharp, go for it. nm||No_sprint|
Jul 15, 2003 11:05 AM
Jul 15, 2003 12:33 PM
|Never heard of them. Is that a Supergo house brand?? They don't seem to have Campy cranks....good thing. At $250, I would be too tempted and I've spent WAY too much money this year on bikes and stuff. They would look sharp on my black carbon fiber weave bike.
Dave...go for it. You only live once.
|Weyless carbon||Dave Hickey|
Jul 15, 2003 12:40 PM
|I bought the carbon seatpost, stem and bars for my new LOOK. I'm very impressed with the quality.|
|yummy carbon....(also fsa carbon info)||Smoothie|
Jul 15, 2003 12:24 PM
|Yeah pretty much a vain item...couldn't notice a difference between the carbon cranks the chorus ones in stiffness despite all the rag tests. :) your mileage may vary as usual....
some stuff I noticed about the fsa carbon ones:
I like the full carbon spider from the carbon team cranks better but the normal carbon cranks with normal arms were actually lighter if grams matter to you.
The FSA chainrings shift very smooth, as good as chorus/record rings. I replaced with TA chainrings since I had a spare set, they also shift very nicely...
Last note - watch out the the chainring bolts with the fsa cranks they break SUPER easy if you tighten them up too much. Use regular steel chainring bolts to tighten than remove one and replace with the fsa bolts and repeat. :)
|yummy carbon....(also fsa carbon info)||collinsc|
Jul 15, 2003 12:49 PM
|Got any more good shots of that De Rosa?|
|more than you can shake a stick at :)||Smoothie|
Jul 15, 2003 5:23 PM
|cut down the stack height a bit and took the lights off (summer time) other than that pretty much the same...somewhere in the 15.5 range (with cages and vetta v100HR comp) last time I checked.
great ride, feel guilty every time I ride it cause there is no way I deserve a bike this nice...
more here: click me
|Check these out.||DERICK|
Jul 15, 2003 1:09 PM
|No, I don't have a set on my bike.|
|fsa - me too||slomo|
Jul 15, 2003 12:28 PM
|just like the weyless cranks. blind folded, i would not be able to tell from my campy record and the fsa pro, as far as stiffness BUT i would be able to tell by Q factor. the FSA's are that much wider, in Q, than the records. it didn't make a huge difference to me but it may to you so consider yourself warned.|
|re: Question for carbon crank users: do you notice a difference?||Ironbutt|
Jul 15, 2003 1:42 PM
|The carbon fiber cranks do indeed have a huge cool factor, and that may be well worth having. But if you are a very large strong rider, stay with the alumnium cranks. I borrowed a set of Campy Record cranks from my friend (a bike shop owner) and wrenched the insert at the inner end where the crank arm fastens to the bottom bracket spindle completely lose. Fortunately, he got a new set under warranty. But if the crank arm had snapped off completely, ther would have been serious problems, as my body is completely out of warranty. My advice is that if you weigh much over 200 pounds, avoid the carbon cranks (and any other ultra light components)|
|My biggest question is:||MXL02|
Jul 15, 2003 1:49 PM
|why are the record cranks twice as much as FSA, and three times as much as the Weyless? I believe they are maybe 50 gms lighter than than the FSA team issue, but the price...ouch!|
Jul 15, 2003 2:17 PM
|They are twice and three times (respectively) as good looking. And since we have all concluded here that carbon cranks are only for looks, then the good looks command a higher price.|
Jul 15, 2003 5:58 PM
|... Depending upon what the cranks are bolted on to...|
Jul 15, 2003 8:56 PM
|that's probably the most beautiful carbon fondriest i've ever seen. please post more photos. are those cosmics w/out the decals?|
Jul 16, 2003 6:20 PM
|This is the P4 Carbon with Record 10 and HED Alps wheels.
The Alps share duty with a set of Eurus.
I've never warmed up to that pinched top tube, but this is a marvelous ride.
|I just messed my pants...||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Jul 15, 2003 10:51 PM
|That photo is exquisite...
Please please please post some more porn, I mean, um, photos of your Fondriest - please?
|Just get them, you know you got the lust.||AllUpHill|
Jul 15, 2003 2:51 PM
|Dura ace versus FSA pro team issue in my case (look identical to the Weyless). Octalink spindle. Noticed a slight stiffness increase when I installed them. I don't think I'd really miss it if I switched back. And please, no one give me the bull $h!+ about how I'm imagining things; I found it slight but perceptible when you're first cranking up from a stand-still, or lurching up a steep grunt. Not perceptible at normal cadence. |
The Q-factor is slightly wider. Like another poster said, no big deal after getting used to it.
The actual weight for the cranks is indistinguishibly close to the dura ace. Like most parts, the weight FSA claims is, well, optimistic. More gram savings came from the aluminum spindle bolts included with the FSAs. As you guessed, cool looks is the main issue here.
|I ordered them this afternoon. Thanks all....nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 15, 2003 3:57 PM
|Why don't you get Look's carbon crank?||KG 361|
Jul 15, 2003 5:59 PM
|In keeping with the theme. I've thought about it but;
1) I can't find them (haven't really looked that hard)
2) I expect they'd be BIG bucks.
Needless, go for it!
|They probably cost more than my frame:-( nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 15, 2003 6:04 PM
|re: Question for carbon crank users: do you notice a difference?||Akirasho|
Jul 15, 2003 6:19 PM
It's mainly a kewl factor... but I like 'em.
Still haven't put too many miles on the Weyless... but, they look good (albeit, even if made by the same maker, there are subtle differences in their shape).
Oddly enuff... a few weeks ago, Supergo was selling the FSA Team for about $290... probably to compete directly with the price over at Total Cycling (I paid full retail for my first FSA Team... bought the second from TC).
Be the bike.
|Great stuff. thank you..... nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 16, 2003 6:04 AM