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Armstrong: Sports' invisible superstar, CNN article.(11 posts)

Armstrong: Sports' invisible superstar, CNN article.ryder1
Jul 10, 2003 8:32 AM
I thought this was interesting.

http://money.cnn.com/2003/07/03/commentary/column_sportsbiz/sportsbiz/index.htm
cycling not a good sport to watch???andy02
Jul 10, 2003 9:18 AM
Oh I guess a car turning left is lot more fun? No cycling is not popular in the us due to the fact you can't paint the road to paris with logos! Maybe they should sell sections of pavement on the route to companies? Or better yet lets make it indoors! on trainers with changing resistance!!

No the real reason is people that watch cycling like cycling ie they like to move more then throwing the release on the lazyboy to get to get a cheap bland beer made by some company that runs a rollercoaster.

Don't get me wrong the us culture is great but people need to get more active. As Mark twian said " I have heard death is very still so I will keep moving" well so that's not the actual quote but it does ring true.
What are you tinking?Dr Lizardo
Jul 10, 2003 9:22 AM
"American culture" you're makin me laugh
I think it is alot like NASCAR...94Nole
Jul 10, 2003 9:33 AM
I never could understand how anyone could sit and watch a car race on tv. Then I was invited to a race, and the speed, the noise, the excitement of a car hitting the wall at almost 200 mph (knowing that very few fail to walk away). I was hooked. And Bubba can buy "the car that Dale drives".

I think it is much the same with cycling. Never thought much about it before it became my means to an end. As a 40ish relative newbie, cycling will likely never be anything but an avenue for exercise and alternative transportation but before last September I had heard of a bike race in France but now the first thing I do is tune in to any and all coverage (Giro, Tour, Vuelta, etc.)

And your point about the sedintary (sp?) US is right on. It takes effort to ride a cycle. It takes no effort to raise a 12oz beauty to your lips. I used to be in that crowd.
Reminds me of a shirt I haveDropped
Jul 10, 2003 9:58 AM
I have a t-shirt from Back Bay Brewing in Boston that I picked up a couple years back when my wife ran the Boston Marathon. It reads "Beer: The official drink of sitting on your ass watching other people achieve greatness."

Whenever I ponder cycling's lack of popularity as a spectator sport, I remember that NASCAR and professional wrestling are two of the most popular "sports" in the U.S. And then it makes sense.
Could it be the "I could do that" factor?pitt83
Jul 10, 2003 10:26 AM
Everyone romanticises themselves a race car driver, a football player, a basketball player. Hell, we can all do those things on weekends. Rding a bike on the weekends, though, for some reason unknown to me, is beyond most folks. They'll drive to the beach and sit in a traffic jam; thanks very much. But, to ride a bike up the alps or everyday for 3 weeks is beyond comprehension for most jamokes. You should see the looks of WTF when I explain the Mt Washington auto road race to some people. They just don't believe it's possible (5000 vertical feet in 6.8 miles). You're not going to watch something you just can't comprehend.
I think it's the exact opposite...biknben
Jul 10, 2003 12:37 PM
People aren't impressed with cycling because they THINK they can do it. It's just riding a damn bike, right? I did that when I was 5 years old.

What makes the other sport so popular is that the spectators know and respect that they CAN'T do it. They can't drive @ 200 mph, hit a 100 mph fast ball, or hit a golf ball 300 yards. They enjoy watching others and then dreaming about doing it themselves.

Now riding a bike? Man, those things have like 50 gears now! Even I could ride up the Alps with one of those. ...No respect.

Lance has helped the sport to gain respect by doing what most think is unbelievable. He conquered concer and is STILL a winner. That demands repect and is entertaining to the masses.
I think it's the exact opposite of the opposite...off roadie
Jul 10, 2003 2:20 PM
Most people I know who see me ride think I'm a maniac just because I can ride faster than a jog, feel comfortable in traffic, and can jump a curb on a mtb. They don't think such things are possible or safe for normal people, because they have never tried it, at least not on ahalf decent bike.

Its pretty obvious to anybody who hears a tiny bit about the tour that they could NOT do a 100 mile rice in the space of an afternoon, no matter how nice the bike. Personally I'm blown away when I watch how fast tour riders are, and my girlfriend (a short distance commutter who never rides just for fun) simply can't comprehend what motivates them to take such risks and work so hard.

Also, the tight clothes and lean bodies don't help much. American men (the primary american sporting audiance) don't want to look like that, so its even harder for them to "put themselves into" the sport.
well done, Dropped. nmJS Haiku Shop
Jul 10, 2003 10:33 AM
No, Bubba can't buy the car that Dale drives.niteschaos
Jul 10, 2003 1:26 PM
Yes he can.94Nole
Jul 11, 2003 4:32 AM
If Dale drives a Monte Carlo, Bubba can go to his Chevy dealer and buy a Monte Carlo. If he is a Rusty fan, he can go buy the current model of whatever Rusty is driving. Where do you think the term "stock car" came from? NASCAR has evolved tremendously in just the 20 or so years I have been following .

Of course, being a 20+ year Nascar fan not an idiot, I KNOW he can't buy a shop built frame, chassis, engine, etc. that DEI builds and drive it on the road. NASCAR is huge, probably the fastest growing spectator "sport" in the late 80's and 90's. There is a lot of money in it for the Big 3. Why do you think Dodge got back in?