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Why doesnt UCI allow camelbaks?(12 posts)

Why doesnt UCI allow camelbaks?ClydeTri
Jul 10, 2003 7:58 AM
Without giving an enormous amount of thought to it, why wont UCI allow them? If you made the requirement you could not throw them during a race, they would appear to be safer than water bottles..there is already at least one wreck being attributed to a water bottle flying during the race..is it just UCI being old school stuffy?
who said they don't? nmDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 8:05 AM
i think i read somewhereEpicX
Jul 10, 2003 8:22 AM
that they don't be cause they can be shaped to give an aerodynamic advantage. i seem to recall them banning them because riders had them UNDER their jerseys and it was seen as a fairing or something.
they were used as recently as 2000 in the TdF nmJS Haiku Shop
Jul 10, 2003 8:23 AM
who said they don't? nmClydeTri
Jul 10, 2003 9:17 AM
somebody down below said they werent, took them at their word..I too though now remember somethign about the supposed "fairing" concept..sounds bogus to me..they allow aero helmets..
a while backDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 10:09 AM
I think a few years ago the UCI intially banned them, but then pulled that rule. I'm not aware of anything banning them, and I've been through the rules a few times.

"Fairings" are banned if the sole purpose of the item is aerodynamics. That's not a Camelbak.

Doug
I don't know -email them and find out? (nm)andy02
Jul 10, 2003 8:08 AM
They Do - What's that thing dangling off of Millar's backMellowVelo
Jul 10, 2003 10:10 AM
This is from the 2002 Tour TTT.
Camelbak for sure.Tower
Jul 10, 2003 1:00 PM
Note that's during the TTT.russw19
Jul 10, 2003 2:22 PM
They are legal in Time Trials.. not on regular road stages.

I just tried to search the UCI rulebook, but that thing is freaking long. Anyways, here's what I know. During a Time Trial, you are not allowed to recieve help from the team car in certain situations unless the race rules provide otherwise. That includes taking bottles. You could in theory draft the team car to an unfail advantage while getting bottles. I know that's crap, but that's the rule. So if the race rules have a provision for it, like in a long (60km) time trial, you should be able to wear one. It wouldn't be a fairing as it has another purpose.

However, and this is my speculation of the rules, during road stages when you are able to go to and from the team car to get bottles, it would not make sense to allow the camelback becuase it is acting as a fairing and normal rules do not prevent you from getting water at the team car.

I don't know that to be accurate, but it would make sense as an explaination as to why you see them on Time Trials, but not Road Stages.

Or it may be UCI legal, but the Tour doesn't allow them.

Russ
2002 millar fastbackeayste
Jul 10, 2003 3:54 PM
They prolly made him wear it , to slow him down.
So the rest of the team can keep up with him.
LOL!
It's not about being safe...Dwayne Barry
Jul 10, 2003 2:57 PM
it's about being practical and it's tradition. Could you see some domestique ferrying the camelbacks back and forth from the team car? Talk about unsafe, straps dangling everywhere! Plus just because somebody screws once or twice in the thousands of time a bottle is taken or placed back into a cage (not to mention a dropped bottle rarely causes a wreck) each day doesn't warrant any kind of change.