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I got my first road bike!(23 posts)

I got my first road bike!Jeff Rage
Jul 9, 2003 3:38 PM
On Monday, a brown truck dropped off a package on my front porch. Inside was my first road bike - a Giant TCR2! I spent Tuesday reassembling what was unasembled for shipping, worked on getting the bars and saddle in the right position, and cleaned & lubed it up.

Today, I went for my first ride. I spent about an hour on the B & A trail, near Glen Burnie. MD. I think I did ok, I averaged 24.3 mph. Ok, maybe not. I didn't put a computer on it yet, so I'm not sure how fast/how far I went. It's a real nice bike!

I have a few questions:
- Should I be in more of a "crouched" position than on my Mtn Bike?
- My hand hurt a lot. Could this mean my bars are positioned incorrectly? Or is just that I'm so used to the horizontal Mtn Bike bar?
- Do they still make threaded stems? It is a used bike, a few years old. I was surpized to see a threaded stem on it.
re: I got my first road bike!PaulNYC
Jul 9, 2003 4:17 PM
Congrats!
Some incomplete answers:
1) You may want to be in a position with your trunk leaned over more.
2) Your hands may hurt
-'cause you need gloves
-there's too much weight on your hands, ie.
handlebar too low
3) They still make threaded stems, I believe lickbike.com had some. Don't worry about it.

enjoy,
Paul
Your bar positioning...newridr
Jul 9, 2003 5:34 PM
Looks to me like your bars are positioned a bit low in terms of the forward tilt (the hoods on the brakes should be up more to provide a more comfortable position to rest your hands). Take a look at some pics on cyclingnews.com at some of the pros' bikes for bar position. You'll be a lot more comfortable with them up a little more.
Your bar positioning...Jeff Rage
Jul 9, 2003 5:46 PM
I was wondering about that. Are you saying to tilt the bars up more? Or are the hoods in the wrong position on the bar?

That was a pic taken by the seller. I'll get a pic of how it's currently set up and will post it.
Your bar positioning...Jeff Rage
Jul 9, 2003 9:09 PM
Here's a close up. The camera is pretty level. Remember, the top tube slopes.
Your bar positioning...Jeff Rage
Jul 9, 2003 9:10 PM
And here's a pic a bit further back.
Your bar positioning (cont)...newridr
Jul 10, 2003 5:25 AM
Yes, I meant to tilt the bar up so the brake hoods are more upright. This will give you a much more comfortable angle to rest your hands. Also, filtersweep's post asks about your seat height. I would also question it. Normally, the seat is slightly higher than the bars. I also came over from mtn bikes and I find that my leg is extended much more at the bottom of the pedal stroke than it was riding mtn. Your leg should have a slight bend to it at the bottom of each stroke on the road. Once you get the bike set up properly, you'll find you are more efficient and can last much longer in the saddle.

Have fun!
Here's a clearer picture!Jeff Rage
Jul 9, 2003 9:12 PM
Don't want to butt infiltersweep
Jul 10, 2003 3:46 AM
The seat actually looks lower than the bars... if you have slid into roadbiking from mtnbiking, you might want to consider your positioning. The seatpost looks as low as it can go, and it looks like a small frame to begin with from the headtube length- and the stem looks raised as far as safely possible.

Are you able to extend your knees with this setup? Usually with a compact frame there will be considerable seatpost exposed...
I have a very short inseamJeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 6:52 AM
I'm a short guy with short legs. So, it may not be possible ofr me to havbe the bars lower than the seat.
Be glad for the stem you have!dzrider
Jul 10, 2003 4:46 AM
It makes it much easier to raise and lower the bars and if your hands are hurting you may want to experiment and find a comfortable position. Comfort is entirely personal and you ain't me, but if it were my bike I would:

Raise the seat and or lower the bars so the seat is a little higher relative to the bars.

Move the brake levers a little further forward, i.e. closer to the ends.

Rotate the bars til they are close to parallel to the ground from the clamp to the hoods.
Chips & SalsaJeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 6:57 AM
I see that Salsa makes quill stems. That's good to know should I ever need a replacement/different size.

Geewz, one person says raise the bars, another says lower them. I am a short guy with a short inseam, so it may not be possible to have the seat above the bars.
Virtual fitting! Whee....!orange_julius
Jul 10, 2003 8:17 AM
Jeff, when I was moving away from MTB to road-ing,
one thing that helped was to tilt the saddle back
slightly. MTB riders tend to have difficulty finding
comfort zone when riding a road bike, and end up putting
in too much weight on your arms. By tilting the saddle
up a bit, you force yourself to put more of your weight
on the saddle, and relieve the pressures on your arms
and hands. In time you can adjust it to become level
again in small increments.

Anyways, since it seems that you're excited about your
your road bike, and that many posters here are happy to
help you out. So why don't you take a picture of yourself
on your bike, and send it over? Come on, don't be shy!

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/features/exisitingfit.shtml
Virtual fitting! Whee....!Jeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 8:40 AM
Oops! That's the wrong bike. I'll try and find someone to take pics of me this weekend. Did you mean just to see who I was or to evaluate my riding position?

Does this pic give you an idea of my dimensions? That bike has a 12" frame!
Virtual fitting! Whee....!orange_julius
Jul 10, 2003 9:37 AM
No, I meant, a picture of you ON the bike's saddle,
as in your riding position. Kind of like in that link
that I sent :-/.....

Nothing personal, but I don't care how you look like on
your own, only how your look like in your riding position.
:-)
Virtual fitting! Whee....!Jeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 11:07 AM
I'll get over it, someday! :D)

I'll have to take my camera with me next time I ride & have pics taken of me. Should I keep it on this thread or start a new one?
Virtual fitting! Whee....!orange_julius
Jul 10, 2003 1:07 PM
If I were you, I'd take the pics indoors. Have one person
hold the bike upright for you so that you can go through
pedaling motion (backwards, use freewheel). This is
exactly how a professional fitter does it anyway, except
that he/she probably has better eyes and experience than you
and me!

Some things are obvious, such as if you're overstretching,
you can see it immediately, etc. There are plenty of
webpages that have pictures of how a fitting should be, and
if you can compare how your position is with how it "should"
be, it can be tremendous help. Use your camera as a way
for you to take a sideway view of yourself. Then you can
look at the websites such as the one that I sent you go get
an idea of how you might improve your fit.

Enjoy the new bike! I was close to buying a TCR2 myself!

ps. start a new thread when you've got the picture(s).
Virtual fitting! Whee....!Jeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 5:44 PM
I'm looking for some other site that show the proper position. The one you gave me was more for a trialthlete, using arebars.
I'd say the oppositeshamelessgearwhore
Jul 10, 2003 7:44 AM
"Move the brake levers a little further forward, i.e. closer to the ends.

Rotate the bars til they are close to parallel to the ground from the clamp to the hoods."

I just went through a bunch of adjustments on my new one by actually moving the hoods BACK about an inch (not too much though or you'll hurt your hands!) and then rotating the bars slightly down. The position of your hands is probably more important than the angle of the drops depending on the kind of riding you want to do.
I've actually tilted the bars down a bit more from when this shot was taken but I have accomplished more of a "platform" to rest my hands on. By moving the hoods back an inch (from when this was taken), and tilting the bar down, I can effectively use the drops too.
You can quickly determine if this will help you by just rotating the bars (hoods and all) up a bit and see how it feels. Getting in the drops will feel weird, but riding on the hoods should feel much better and your hands will probably hurt less. Also raise that seat slightly higher than the bars.
I'd say the oppositeJeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 7:54 AM
So you can move the hoods on the bars? If I decided to try that, I'd have to take off the tape, correct? Is the tape reusable or would have to get more?

I don't think I can raise the seat. If I'm standing over the tob tube close to the seat, I have maybe an inch of clearance. I have my pants altered to a 23" inseam. I have short legs!
unwrapshamelessgearwhore
Jul 10, 2003 8:21 AM
the top half of the bars. Buy black electrical tape. Carefully look at how everything is taped when you take it apart and you'll have no prob redoing it. There is nothing wrong with rewrapping the tape. I did this about three times until I got it right.

On another note, if you truly can't raise the seat at least as high as the bars, and you're already stretching to reach the pedals with the seat as low as it will go, the bike may be too big for you
unwrapJeff Rage
Jul 10, 2003 8:35 AM
I'm not steetching to reach the pedals. The saddle height feels fine. The only way to get the bars to go lower would be to lower the stem.

On my Mtn bike, I flipped my stem upsidedown to a negative rise to try to get the bars lower!

If you saw me in person, it would be easier to understand.
No accounting for comfort.dzrider
Jul 10, 2003 11:16 AM
It sounds like the hoods wind up in much the same place by either method. What changes is the angle of the top of the bar. I do most of my riding with my palms facing eachother rather than parallel to the ground because I find it much easier on my hands, arms and shoulders. It's a lot easier for me to do this with the top of the bar close to flat.