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New carbon Cannondale spotted at Tour... (2 pics inside)(16 posts)

New carbon Cannondale spotted at Tour... (2 pics inside)divve
Jul 9, 2003 11:11 AM
It's a combination of aluminum lugs (silver) bonded with carbon (black)...will they call is CAAD8?

re: New carbon Cannondale spotted at Tour... (2 pics inside)Smeagol
Jul 9, 2003 11:22 AM
This seems to violate the statement they make on their website about carbon adding weight to the frame, so they won't mix carbon with aluminum.
re: New carbon Cannondale spotted at Tour... (2 pics inside)divve
Jul 9, 2003 11:41 AM
I guess the possibility of stickers shouldn't be ruled out in this specific case. However, I know for a fact such a bike is in the making. Regarding the carbon bonding, I believe they stated it would add weight when combined with specifically machined drop outs/plugs to accept carbon seat stays. If you look at the pics the seat stays appear to be aluminum.
Remember when Cipo...Smeagol
Jul 9, 2003 11:28 AM
used stickers to make his components look like carbon?
Jul 9, 2003 12:10 PM
a rebadged bike? it has been done many times by many riders over the years...Lance won at least his first TDF on a Litespeed Blade that was painted to look like a Trek in the time trails...
C'Dale has been working on this...biknben
Jul 9, 2003 12:30 PM
This is not a rebadged bike or fake carbon stickers. My C'dale rep tipped me off and told me to look out for a new C'dale that would have a carbon main triangle with an Al rear end. My new CAAD7 just became obsolete. :-)

C'dale's claim of carbon just adding weight was in reference to carbon seat stays.

C'dale has dabbled with carbon before. They offered a FS mountain bike with a carbon skin main triangle reinforced with Al. More recently they are using carbon on the scalpel mtb frames.
full circle...ClydeTri
Jul 9, 2003 12:35 PM
trek composite bikes 10 years ago had carbon main triangles and alumimnum stays..then we went to all carbon frames..then to aluminum main triangles with carbon Cdale takes us back to the future with a carbon main triangle and alumium stays..same as treks from 10 years ago...
Adding weight?!?!filtersweep
Jul 9, 2003 1:12 PM
We all know the lighter the bike, the more comfortable the ride ;)

It is interesting to make a carbon/AL mix "backwards"- only from Cannondale- the "Minolta of the bike biz " !
hey biknben....marcoxxx
Jul 9, 2003 1:23 PM
what do you think about your caad7? i have a caad7, and love it...the ride is supper smooth for al frame but it is sooo stiff. i understand with the integrated bb & crank, it is a rocket too.

hey biknben....biknben
Jul 9, 2003 4:19 PM
I can't tell any difference from the CAAD5 I had before. I'm not disappointed, I just don't notice a difference. The 7 is a quarter pound lighter than the 5 but that's too little a change to notice that either.

I was offered a great deal so I jumped on it. My CAAD5 is on E-bay as I type. In the end, the swap may only cost me a couple hundred bucks. Not bad in my opinion.

The integrated BB and crank saved a little more weight and offers greater stiffness.
Yeah, the Raven.DERICK
Jul 9, 2003 3:17 PM
It,s a fantastic riding bike.
marketing pressures triumph again!terry b
Jul 9, 2003 2:06 PM
Just like our friends at Serotta who could never incorporate CF into their lineup (and did) but would never incorporate CF stays into their lineup (but did.)

It must be really hard to loudly rally around your chosen material and then watch as the purchasing public wanders off to the latest craze. Is it better to swallow your pride and make believe you never said it was a bad idea or go out of business?

Kudos to them for being pragmatic, the bandwagon keeps rolling and they've chosen to jump onboard.
so true:) nmdivve
Jul 9, 2003 2:26 PM
Every carbon MTB they built was a failurespookyload
Jul 9, 2003 9:44 PM
I had a raven, raven 2, and a scalpel, and every bike had a carbon failure. In fact both ravens were recalled for BB failure.
Very True.....Ligon
Jul 10, 2003 5:34 AM
I can remember at the shop I use to work in filling the ravens full of foam to fix the "problem". I am not real sure if I would want to ride the bike again if the only thing that was done to fix the carbon failure was to squirt a bunch of foam in the frame. :)

not the same problem...biknben
Jul 10, 2003 5:46 AM
Filling the tubes with foam was used to deaden the accoustics in the carbon. The raven were known to sound like beating drums when riding down a rough trail. The foam helpes THAT "problem".