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To you single/fixie cases out there... Milano question(12 posts)

To you single/fixie cases out there... Milano questionMrCelloBoy
Jul 8, 2003 1:11 PM
Has anyone tried using the B'chi Milano as an all-rounder?

I'm thinking of getting one and converting it into my ultimate "allrounder". Upgrades, clipless/combo pedals, lose the stand, replace the bars with some B'stone moustaches.
I did some serious miles on an ibis Scorcher fixie a few years back so I have a feel for what I'm considering.
I like itDougSloan
Jul 8, 2003 1:35 PM
All I did was add thornproof presta valve tubes and SPD/quill single sided pedals. Oh, recently added celeste fenders, too. I'd leave the kickstand on.

It's a fun bike. Don't know if I'd want to put a lot of miles on it, though. Too upright for me for long rides.


Yes, upright...MrCelloBoy
Jul 8, 2003 1:48 PM
That's why I was thinking along the lines of the Moustache bars.
Are those the stock tires or did you go with something narrower?
Upright is OK ...Humma Hah
Jul 8, 2003 1:54 PM
Doug's Milano is configured very closely to my cruiser, which is good for an all-day ride, and a very cozy century bike.

You can certainly try moustache bars or drops on it ... I've seen cruisers equipped that way and it may work very well. But if it doesn't work out, upright might be better than you think.
what you're used toDougSloan
Jul 8, 2003 2:01 PM
I'm used to being nearly horizontal for most of my riding, so upright feels funny and slow to me. OTOH, you've been riding HH for what, 30 years?

Let's see, I turned 50 today, so it would be about 45 years ...Humma Hah
Jul 8, 2003 2:14 PM
... of riding, about 1% of which was "in the drops."
Jul 8, 2003 1:58 PM
Stock tires, with different tubes. They are about 1.5-1.8", I'd guess.

Could put in a different stem, too, to lower the bars.

Jul 8, 2003 2:14 PM
Hadn't thought of putting on a flatter stem. I was OK with the crescent bars that came on my Scorcher, but the stem was a bit longer and I could get a bit stretched out when needed by holding the bars close to the stem. The Rivendell
Nitto Moustache bars:
Look like they'd give me a good variety of positions with a unique look.
Yes, upright...MrCelloBoy
Jul 8, 2003 2:09 PM
That's why I was thinking along the lines of the Moustache bars.
Are those the stock tires or did you go with something narrower?
No reason why not...peter1
Jul 8, 2003 2:22 PM
I've taken my father's (which I bought for him this year) on a few 30-plus mile rides and was pretty comfortable. However, I would swap the stock seat, add clipless pedals and tinker with the stem/bar combo a bit if it were my bike. He's got the 7-speed nexus gearing, which is a bit high for an all-round bike, imo. The lowest gear wouldn't get you up really steep grades. Plus you've got some pretty long chainstays to deal with.

If you really wanted to go "all round," I'd put on either 1.5 inch knobbies or semi-slicks, or even those Avocet reverse-tread touring tires. That way you could go off-road a bit.

What would be cool is if you could just score a frame from bianchi. However, I'm not sure there's a way to mount a rear brake besides the drum/band combo...

I guess it's do-able, but I wouldn't say you'd have the "ultimate" all-rounder.
No reason why not...MrCelloBoy
Jul 8, 2003 2:38 PM
The key here Peter is "my" ultimate... each of us has concepts that make something ideal for us. Of course this can change, but at this point I'm intrigued by the 7 sp. verastility/low maintainence, and the overall simple beauty of the bike.
The Scorcher fixed gear that I rode quite a bit had a 74 inch ratio and I was able to grind it up some pretty silly hills without hurting myself. I'm sure the Milano is geared well lower than that. Of course the Scorcher was only about 23 lbs. I'm guessing the Milano is a few pounds heavier. The Scorcher ran 41mm Specialized Nimbus tires that were awesome on and off road. I see they come in 26".
Van Dessel Super Flywinstonc
Jul 8, 2003 5:49 PM
You may want to look into to the Van Dessel Super Fly. It's also got a Nexus hub, and it already has a moustache bars and combo pedals -- and it also has a front disc brake and a rear roller brake, so stopping power isn't really affected by water.

I bought one of these and it's great for getting around town and in bad weather. I replaced the handlebars with bullhorns since I'm not into the moustache bars -- too upright for me.

If your local stores don't carry them, they're often up on eBay....