|I'm running through a crap Ultegra||OldEdScott|
Jul 8, 2003 5:27 AM
|right STI shifter every six months on warranty -- I will shortly be on my third in the past 13 months, if I go the normal replacement route. What do you figure the odds of Shimano agreeing to just give me an Ultegra-price credit toward a pair of Dura-Ace shifters? Has anyone tried it?|
|It'll never happen.||MR_GRUMPY|
Jul 8, 2003 5:46 AM
|Boy, talk about bad luck. Even if the Ultegra levers had a 5% failure rate, what are the chances that you would get three bad ones in a row.
With that kind of luck, you should stay off your bike, and stay inside for the next six months.
|6 mos, 2000 miles is how long my 1st and only ULT lasted nm||terry b|
Jul 8, 2003 5:51 AM
Jul 8, 2003 6:22 AM
|My LBS always will do this. They'll sell the new Ultegra to someone else and be out nothing for making 2 customers happy.
PS: The DA aren't that much better. First pair lasted only 6 months, second set on year 3 now (new production run or just luck?)
Jul 8, 2003 7:16 AM
|If Shimano just replaces one shifter, no shop is going to part with just one DA shifter. They will get stuck with a left side DA and a right side Ultegra. They'd end up giving them away.
If Shimano replaces both shifters then the shop would be more inclined to swap.
|Why get the shop involved?||off roadie|
Jul 8, 2003 7:27 AM
|Dealing with Shimano's warrenty department directly (via thier website) is quick and painless. In my experience, they will replace almost anything where the failure is even vaugely not directly your fault. They probably like getting the broken parts for analisis.|
|re: I'm running through a crap Ultegra||off roadie|
Jul 8, 2003 7:23 AM
|I think they WILL do upgrade-credit as part of a warrenty. But you'd better figure ouyt how you are busting them so fast. I'm guessing the Dura Ace won't last much longer given the same (ab)use.|
|Ummm, son ....||OldEdScott|
Jul 8, 2003 7:39 AM
|You would be hard-pressed to show where I've 'abused' my shifter. I don't race, I've never crashed this particular bike, it sleeps indoors out of the rain, and as someone who prefers old-style friction shifting, I don't even shift much. If such sedate use as I've given it constitute 'abuse,' then these things really ARE crap.
But then, clearly you know more than I do about such things, since you've divined 'abuse' from the scant evidence of my post.
|Defensive, aren't we?||53T|
Jul 3, 2003 6:16 AM
|My Ultegras are still going strong (knock alloy) after 5 years. But I race them, crash them, "maintain" them (spray in WD-40 every couple of years) and generally ignore them. I like to shift a lot, in a flat crit I'll shift two or three times a lap just for the hell of it.
Maybe you should abuse yours more?
|Yeah, maybe they're corroded from disuse! nm||OldEdScott|
Jul 8, 2003 7:47 AM
|Post is not credible||WhoWasThat|
Jul 8, 2003 8:01 AM
|Just a Shimano-bashing troll. Hey, if you're gonna make something up, at least make it plausible.|
|Well, I've been around the board awhile||OldEdScott|
Jul 8, 2003 8:07 AM
|and I'm not known for trolling (except in political matters, on non-cycling, for fun.) Nor do I give a crap about Shimano-vs-Campy. I'm Suntour kind of guy, if you want to know.
Seems implausible to me too that something so supposedly advanced would crap out on me this way.
|Well, I've been around the board awhile||NEIL|
Jul 8, 2003 10:08 AM
|Gasp! .....He said Suntour!
...Actually, the truth be told, Suberbe Pro was a pretty darn nice grouppo in it's day.
|Still is. I run Superbe Pro on my other bike and||OldEdScott|
Jul 8, 2003 10:11 AM
|I gotta say, I've never had a shifter or anything else crap out in 18 YEARS on that bike.
The simplicity of friction shifting is one of its great advantages.
|Hmmmm--any chance Live Steam works for Shimano?||The Walrus|
Jul 8, 2003 1:41 PM
|There is a conspiratorial feel to this, and it
always the shifter
i on the right.
|shut up, dad- don't be an old grouch||off roadie|
Jul 8, 2003 1:53 PM
|I didn't say you did abuse them. I just said you should figure out how you bust them. Thats not a critique, its basic, sound mechanical advice. Whatever you figure out might stear you towards a better repalcment, such as bar end shifters.
I think its also clear that that "Dura Ace won't last much longer given the same (ab)use" means "it won't last as long given that same level of careful use, or the same level of absurd abuse." Your post was kind of lacking in the details area as to your use, or in any other real info, so I was figured it best to allow for either case. Why you assumed the worst, I can't guess...
In any case, don't call me "son" unless you plan to pay for my room and board. The man who married my mother never did that, and I will not alow him to cll me "son"- so where you think you get that right and privlidege, I don't know.
|someone had to say it... get campy..lol.nm||EpicX|
Jul 8, 2003 8:07 AM
|An alternative...||Andy M-S|
Jul 8, 2003 8:16 AM
|As an alternative, you could put Campy Centaur or Chorus on there...you can get Centaur for $130 (approx) the pair, and Centaur 10-speed, set up with alternate cable routing, shifts a Shimano Ultegra 9-speed drivetrain perfectly.
And when the shifters wear (as all moving parts do) they can be rebuilt for around $30 or so.