|Road bikes are great recovery tools||Jaybo|
Jul 1, 2003 12:24 PM
|I am an avid mountain biker who has learned to use my road bike for recovery rides. After busting my tail, legs, and body climbing gnarly climbs on my mountain bike, I sometimes go on a ride on my road bike to recover. It really helps my muscles relax along with my mind. The speed and smoothness of road biking is great. It is so relaxing, mellow, and nirvanic. However, as always, I return to mountain biking for the tough workout I so need to get me moving.
Does anyone use road biking this way?
|You sir, have insulted us all..||eschelon|
Jul 1, 2003 12:54 PM
|How dare you say that you have to use your mtb bike to get a real workout? How dare you!...what? Riding our sissie road bikes is a joke? eh?........
|Just the opposite . . .||Look381i|
Jul 1, 2003 1:01 PM
|I find mtb trail riding, whether on my mtb or cyclocross, to be more relaxing. Seldom do I have extended periods at high heart rates. For those, I hit the road.|
|Really? I have found that||bill|
Jul 1, 2003 1:09 PM
|your mama is a great recovery tool . . . .|
|Come on, that's uncalled for...nm||eschelon|
Jul 1, 2003 1:13 PM
|Actually, that's pretty damn funny. Lighten up Francis...nm||t0adman|
Jul 1, 2003 1:20 PM
|She is a MILF||Jaybo|
Jul 1, 2003 2:11 PM
|Figure that out, moron! I bet your momma is fat and ugly much like you.
|You'd like to F#$% your mother?||PaulMC|
Jul 1, 2003 2:25 PM
|I don't know if the other guy is a moron but your sexual attraction to your mother indicates deep, deep, troubling issues. Seek professional help.|
|What is a MILF?, I get a lot of emails with that acronym. nm||Bruno S|
Jul 1, 2003 2:51 PM
|MILF = Mom I'd Like to F&%#||innergel|
Jul 1, 2003 2:54 PM
|You do? You don't live at home, do you? (nm)||PseuZQ|
Jul 1, 2003 3:36 PM
|MILF= Malaysian Islamic Liberation Front||The Human G-Nome|
Jul 1, 2003 3:43 PM
|it's true, i swear.|
|Actually, most top flight mtbikers do most of their training..||Brooks|
Jul 1, 2003 1:09 PM
|on the road, up to 90%. The mtn bike is used for handling skills. Glad you found the beauty of the road, too.|
|LOL You obviously don't race. nm||No_sprint|
Jul 1, 2003 1:29 PM
|I'd rather go bald and get fat||Jaybo|
Jul 1, 2003 1:39 PM
|I would not be caught dead running with a bunch of pencil necked roadies. No way! I would rather loose all my hair, be impotent, and get fat then do that. Ugh! I love taking roadies out and watching them cry on a rocky mountain bike climb. It is entertaining.
|I love a good troll... School out for the summer? nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 1, 2003 1:53 PM
|and can you hack a real climb?||niteschaos|
Jul 1, 2003 6:01 PM
|A lot of guys I know that Mt. bike brag about how well they can descend. Roadies brag about how well they can climb. All I know is that power and endurance don't have much to do with how well you can descend.|
|Tell you what...||asphalt assault|
Jul 2, 2003 2:42 AM
|Since I started riding road early this spring...my climbing in the dirt has improved tremendously and also my ability to spin smoothly over rough, nasty technical sections.
I like to think of my road bike as my secret weapon for riding in the dirt.
You're right though, descending has nothing at all to do with power or endurance. It's more of a bike handeling/reaction timing affair.
Any spaz can fly down a hill with the help of gravity, it takes REAL power to fly UPHILL.
Heh, you should hear my buds who only ride dirt cuss when I drop them on an uphill section...calling me an effing roadie and such. Cracks me up:)
|Take Lance as an example!||Jaybo|
Jul 1, 2003 1:37 PM
|That guy cannot win on a mountain bike. He has been quoted as saying he has never suffered as much as when he rode a moutain bike. Oh, by the way, he gets his butt kicked on a mountain bike. There is no way in hel* that road biking is as tough as mountain biking!
|I was taking this whole thing sort of tongue in cheek, because||bill|
Jul 1, 2003 1:48 PM
|it's a silly debate. I kind of thought you were, too (tongue in cheek), but I guess not.
If there is no way in heck that road biking is as tough as mountain biking, than how come mountain bikers just don't take some time off from their dirty little deeds to win the Tour? Should be no problem even for, like, say, you.
But that's not what happens. Both are physically demanding in somewhat different ways. One isn't tougher -- it's, it's, it's just ridiculous to go there.
If you ride your MTB tough, it's tough. If you ride your road bike tough, it's tough. And Armstrong doesn't win MTB races because that's not where his talents and skills have lead him and not what he trains to do.
Now, certainly some former MTB riders have gone on to do very well on the road, but usually after a couple of years. They're great athletes, with talents that translate, but not because MTB riding is inherently tougher.
|well said (nm)||emckee|
Jul 1, 2003 2:21 PM
|to give you a comparison||The Human G-Nome|
Jul 1, 2003 3:46 PM
|Lance can go enter a cylcocross race in the offseason and completely destroy all of the pro american cyclocross racers. he probably wouldn't fair all too well in Europe minus the training but it goes to show just how physically dominating he is.|
|WRONG! Rumors of gradeur||cxer|
Jul 1, 2003 9:06 PM
|Lance can go enter a local CX race in Texas and win against one of the top guys from that state.
Who is that guy? I don't know because he doesn't register in the top USA CX riders! American pros as well as any european elite CX rider will destroy Lance.
Lance is very talented in many sports but he is at the top of only one.
|WRONG! Rumors of gradeur||The Human G-Nome|
Jul 1, 2003 9:16 PM
|the point was that he does ZERO training, but can still win. if you gave him time to train specifically for CX he would win.|
Jul 2, 2003 1:30 AM
|He does alot of cross-training. He rides his MTB in the off season, did several non-road events over the winter season including a mountain bike-tri event
A cyclist of his caliber can win a CX event at the regional level with very little training but to say he could even stay with the top US guys is WRONG. Sorry, aint gonna happen.
Just as he can't hang with XC races, it would be same for CX.
I think he's great and for him to be able to have success at local/regional levels in CX, MTB or other events says alot about his skill and talent.
"IF" you gave him time to train for CX? What does that mean? "IF" Lance never had cancer he would still have a left nut. IF doesn't mean squat.
Jul 2, 2003 4:32 AM
|Merckx rode cyclocross at the start of every season (January) and won against the top Euro competition, as did the De Vlaeminck brothers and many others. I daresay if Armstrong rode a few races he'd be right up there with the best.|
Jul 2, 2003 4:58 AM
|You realize they grew up riding cyclocross right? CX is a completely different discipline from road racing. Sorry, just because someone else can do something doesn't mean Lance can do it too.
I'm not saying he wouldn't be good- his spirit, talent and strength will assure he will but ride with the top guys? Sure, if he dedicates a full CX season to it for several years he might be able to hang with the UCI top 50.
|ACTUALLY......not||The Human G-Nome|
Jul 2, 2003 7:46 AM
|Sure, if he dedicates a full CX season to it for several years he might be able to hang with the UCI top 50.
you are just f/n delusional. there's a reason that terrific world class MTBers like Cadel Evans can come over to the road racing side and do very well.... it's because they ride a bicycle and they ride it well. road biking DOES translate to CX. it's not like he's going from football to freakin waterpolo. use use similar muscle groups and the fact that he's already been a very accomplished Tri guy, can put out more watts then ANYONE else on the course (yes, more then ALL of the CX guys) and has as high a tolerance for suffering then anyone else means that with training, he would also dominate this sport.
|misinformation again||The Human G-Nome|
Jul 2, 2003 7:42 AM
|quit being so f/n sensitive. gesus h. krist. sorry to spit on your holy grail of CX. if you can't understand that the guy is in almost inhuman physical shape and that that was my point then you just wont understand. drop it already. this wasn't a diss against world class CX riders. geesh.|
|i'm a mountain biker first...||iml|
Jul 1, 2003 10:38 PM
|but do lots of racing on the road, and you, sir, are an embarrassment to any real mountain bike rider. Scram. Before I drop your fat self up AND down.|
|Take John Tomac as an example!||mfuchs1|
Jul 2, 2003 3:16 AM
|He was a good rider for 7-11 and Motorola on the ROAD but most people know him as a mountain biker. He has accomplished much more on the dirt than the road. So if you are going to say that Lance is an example of someone road racing because it is easier I could say that Tomac is just the opposite but I won't since both train for a specific type of riding. Lance chose to concentrate on the road and has risen to the top where Tomac has excelled on dirt. |
There really is no comparison between the two sports other than that they are done on a bicycle.
Jul 1, 2003 1:56 PM
|The two best mountain bike racers of the past decade (and current fulltime roadies) -- Miguel Martinez (UCI road ranking: 829) and Cadel Evans (UCI road ranking: 381) -- might just disagree with you.
Glad you have discovered the joys or road cycling. I'm sure that, like everyone else who has tried it, you will find that it greatly improves your fitness for off-road riding.
|Having raced both.....||jesse1|
Jul 1, 2003 2:34 PM
|.....I'd say one is not tougher than the other. Just different. Hey! they're both like x-country skiing. You can make it as easy or tough as you like.|
|Don't get me started on xc skiing...||NatC|
Jul 1, 2003 4:38 PM
|Wife talked me into buying a xc skiing setup last winter. We went on a 3 mile loop in deep snow on a trail that's singletrack in the other 3 seasons and I wasn't sure if I was going to make it back! That's right, 3 lousy miles!!! Jeez, MORE inefficient! You should've seen my arms and legs going all over the place, burning lots of energy but barely getting anywhere! I couldn't go fast enough or far enough to totally enjoy it, but I bet I was entertaining to watch.|
|Yes your right!||the bull|
Jul 1, 2003 5:47 PM
|I started to do this myself!
Then I learned it was a great workout tool as well.
I could get an awesome workout without BUSTING my tail, legs, and body!
|Hey Jaybo...||asphalt assault|
Jul 1, 2003 5:50 PM
|I see you're an idiot over here just as you are over on MTBR.
Anyway, grow up and open your mind. Different people like different things. A good hard road ride can turn your legs to goo just as a good dirt ride will, it's simply incorrect to say that one is more difficult or more physicially demanding than the other.
I will say this...I just got back from a good, hard, 30 mile dirt ride and I felt LESS wobbly when I stepped off the bike then I do after a good, hard 30mi spinning on the road. Each type of riding complements the other and I love both for different reasons.
Time for a nite nite story for you and go to bed, the street lights are on.
|You said it best yourself ...||HouseMoney|
Jul 1, 2003 6:14 PM
Does your road bike fit at least, or did you buy that one, too, without trying it out first?!
Jul 2, 2003 4:00 AM
|Something fun, funny, and totally absurd to stir up the board...definitely needed it. Thanks Jaybo.|| |