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knee pain and pedal systems(9 posts)

knee pain and pedal systemsmollythedog
Jun 28, 2003 12:39 PM
For the last 2 weeks I have experienced knee pain on the outer portion of my knee, beside my knee cap. On my left leg. The knee hurts when I climb and sometimes when I stand up. I can spin the gears fine. My question is, would the speedplay zero pedals system possible help with this? I currently use the Look pp296 with red cleats. The pedals are set on the max. rotation. I know that the description is kind of vague, but any help would be great.
re: knee pain and pedal systemscarbs
Jun 28, 2003 12:51 PM
They helped my a lot. My left knee is pretty bad. My ACL is made of gortex now. I was using the same Looks and the Speedplays made a lot of difference. My knees still cause some problems (the right one is pretty bad, too) but no where near what they used to. Good luck.
re: knee pain and pedal systemsMy Dog Wally
Jun 28, 2003 1:34 PM
My knees didn't get better until I got RID of my Speedplays. For some people, a lot of float isn't the answer. I do much better with Shimano 959s.

- Dennis in Seattle
re: knee pain and pedal systemsDeRosaOrBust
Jun 28, 2003 4:42 PM
I would eliminate the float to zero or 3. Make sure your toes are not pointed too far in also. Another possiblity is that your seat may be set too far back. Just a few things to look at.
re: knee pain and pedal systemsSeamusAD
Jun 28, 2003 7:20 PM
The style of pedal may not be the problem. First be sure that you are set up properly. A bike and a cleat fitting are worth the time and money.

Your symptoms are similar to those that I experienced several months ago. The condition turned out to be ITBS, and a cleat realignment, amongst other things, helped eliminate the cause.
..a related question2300 Edmontonian
Jun 29, 2003 9:19 AM
I just bought ultegra pedals and shoes a week ago and the four rides I've been on, they hurt at around the same places - outer knee area and sometimes lower knee.
My questions are,
How do you know whether a system is good for you?, if the system is not good, how do I approach my LBS about replacing it considering it's been used a week now, what would they be looking for?
Could it be logical to assume that if I keep it this way, that my legs would eventually get use to it?..
And lastly, does this cause any permenant damages?
Thanks
..a related answermollythedog
Jun 29, 2003 3:15 PM
after I posted the original message I took a closer look at my pedals. they are about 5 years old. The right pedal looked fine, but the left pedals had a great deal of wear on the outer part of the mechanism the holds the LOOK cleat in the pedals( usually black in color and made of a resin like material. From that I made the conclusion that since the outer part of my knee was hurting. It has to be from my knee muscles trying to compensate for the extra movement that the pedal was giving me. My left shoe was moving to far toward the bike. This was a slight differnce but it was enough for my knee to hurt. I ordered new pedals and new cleats, so lets hope this is the fix. If it is not,then mabye then I can get some Ti. in my knee. HAHAHAHA

A answer to your question: It could be possible that your pedal system has to much float for you. I like LOOK give them a try. Mabye try the pedal where you can adjust the float to see what works best. I found that 9 degrees is good for me but any more it will hurt(due to wear). Did your shop fit you to your pedals( knee over pedal, ball of foot over cleat, etc.) if not start with that.
just my opinion
hope it helps, later
ds
..a related answerbriburke
Jun 30, 2003 6:59 AM
I've been experiencing similar pain this year, with a pedal/bike setup that's the same as my pain-free last year. I talked to a friend who's a PT, and she found two things. First, my bike seat was a touch low (I'd shipped it and hadn't set the seat exactly as it was), and second, my IT band was really tight. She recommended a stretch that has really solved the problem. The IT band is a ligament structure that runs down the outside of your leg and attaches in many places around the knee. A great stretch is to stand with your weight on one leg, and shift your hip to the direction. So, standing on my right leg, I shift my hips to the right - I feel the stretch all down my leg and even into my knee. A couple of 30 second sets for each side a day has made my last ride pain-free.

-Brian
ahhh, the IT band stretcht0adman
Jun 30, 2003 9:20 AM
It especially good if you have a high Q-angle, or slight knock knees, like I do. I've dislocated my patella four times because of this lovely anatomy and I find that IT band stretching is must. You can also lean against a wall sideways and cross one leg over the other to stetch the outside of your leg. I did 101 miles on Saturday and experienced the exact same pain on the outside of my left knee. I'll be trying Speedplays this week to see if that helps. Please post any solutions you find.