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Some one give it to me straight. I need answers.(55 posts)

Some one give it to me straight. I need answers.magnum
Jun 25, 2003 4:41 PM
I've been saving a little money over the fall winter and spring. I now have a enough to buy what I want (probably a Cdale R1000).

The problem is: I'm big guy. i'm 290 lbs.

I guess I want you all to tell me whether I have any business throwing a leg over the bike I want?

My friend (who doesn't cycle) thinks I just should spend the money on a widescreen TV. While the thought is entertaining. I don't think doing this would solve my problem - I'm very unhappy with my present physical state. I want to get healthy and have fun doing it.

In short, what are you all's impression of larger riders - particularly newbies entering the sport and what advice would you give?
Go for it!synapselapse
Jun 25, 2003 5:14 PM
Riding is an excellent way to get in shape, and HAVE FUN!! I wouldn't worry about your current physical conditioning / weight -- at least as it pertains to riding. Get out there and ride!
Just do it and...deHonc
Jun 25, 2003 5:26 PM
get some 36 spoke wheels - don't get low spoke wheels until you (and you will) get the weight down. Although I'm sure the Dale will be fine - why not test ride a steel bike as well? Might be a little more comfy.

BTW - I went from 253 pounds to 172 pounds in 16 months - largely due to cycling around 60km per day and watching the diet - also cutting down on drinking. You will feel so much better for it - get to it!
Before you do anything crazy....Willz
Jun 25, 2003 5:44 PM
call your doctor and set up a full physical. Tell him/her of your plans and ask for advice.

If you are on meds, make sure you discuss them with the doctor. I also advise you to go to your local exercise facility or YMCA and seek out their advice as well.

The last thing you want to do is buy a bike then ride 30 miles. You will be so sore the next day, if you survive the ride, that you may not get back on. Pace yourself. It will go slow in the beginning but as you start to shed some weight, you will be able to ride longer. If your butt gets sore, go outside and walk a couple of miles every day for a few days.

Finally, drink lots of water. When you think you need those chips or snacks at 10 at night, go drink a boat of water - you won't want to eat the chips and water will help flush your system.

Best wishes and good luck to you.
Before you do anything crazy....magnum
Jun 25, 2003 5:50 PM
I guess now is a good time to say that I'm 21 years old. I'm just a big guy - added about 60lbs since I came to college. I lift weights so I'm Beefy - with a tire round the middle - i just got a gut with a little fat elsewhere (legs, arms) i'm pretty rock solid in the arms (doesn't help in cycling) and pretty stout in the legs. I'm just hauling fat around the mid section so.... that about sums up my health situation. I'm basically very overweight and out of shape fitness wise.
Before you do anything crazy....magnum
Jun 25, 2003 5:52 PM
OH, I've been sore before - nothing new. Especially when weight lifting. I don't mind a little pain. Like the saying no pain - no gain. I crave the gains....
Before you do anything
Jun 25, 2003 5:58 PM
I've seen 18 yr. olds with hypertension....get the physical.
Before you do anything crazy....magnum
Jun 25, 2003 6:01 PM
how does a physical test for hypertension?
Before you do anything
Jun 25, 2003 6:23 PM
That is one of many things they will do as part of your physical is measuring your blood pressure.
Since you are still in college:Alexx
Jun 26, 2003 3:28 AM
Get your butt down to the gym! It's free, and I'm sure there will be lots of aerobic exercise equipment (stationary bikes, stair climbers, rowing machines, etc.), as well as a running track. Start by doing 30 minutes of HARD physical exercise every day.
Once you lose a few pounds, you may find that you have a better idea about what kind of riding you will be wanting to do. If you buy a roadbike without getting some activity going, all you'll end up doing is riding it across campus .5 miles to class and back, until it eventually gets stolen from the bike rack. To get any serious exercise from a roadbike, figure that you will need to set aside enough time for regular 30-mile rides.
Oh, BTW, make sure you go to a bike shop to get a proper fit. Cannondal is a good choice for a large guy, but not the only one available.
Get the bike!!jptaylorsg
Jun 25, 2003 5:56 PM
I'm guessing you already have a TV. And it probably played its part in your present physical state. Get the bike and ride it. Forget about your weight, people come in different shapes and sizes. Ride with the goal of going farther, going faster, climbing higher and seeing more - you'll have fun, and the physical part will take care of itself. (You'll find that the more you ride — and crosstrain, mix in a run or trip to the gym — the better your diet will become. Domino effect) I'm a big (6'4", 220) — formerly much bigger (275) — guy, and I can't tell you how great it felt to cross the finish on my 1st charity ride (60 miles). And if people scowl, screw 'em. You probably wouldn't have beers with those fools anyway. Get the bike and have fun. (And definitely look into at least a Velocity Deep-V rear wheel with higher gauge spokes. I broke several spokes learning this lesson).
Jun 25, 2003 5:58 PM
Guy above makes a great point. Of course be smart about how much to do and how soon. See a doctor and listen to him.
Get the bike, take it easy, feel good about yourself.fracisco
Jun 25, 2003 5:57 PM
Take it easy. Keep a log of your progress. Get some 36 spoke wheels. Ride 700x25 tires.

Have fun with it, and hopefully you'll still be having fun a year from now.
36h rims....BAH!!!Farmer John
Jun 25, 2003 6:52 PM
A well built set of 32s, cross three will be plenty. I've been right where you are. Close to 300 pounds and in love with cycling. Mainly off road, but I have a huge roadie vein from my youth.

I've always ridden and have been an enthusiast, but over the last year I've taken things a bit more seriously. I've gone from riding 2-3 days a week to 5-6 and from 1-1:30 at a time to always in excess of 2 and striving to average 3 hours of saddle time on my riding days.

Last thanksgiving I weighed 280lbs. On Christmas day, I started Atkins and a 5 day a week spinning program. Hurt like hell for a while and I started at around 30 minutes and worked my way up to where I am now. 213 pounds.

I'm in mo way a super fit man, but the health benefits I'm enjoying are making the hard work I've put into this endeavor well worth it.

It would be for you also.

for your perusal, The first pic in early November last year, the second at the beginning of May. I was around 228 at that point.

Here's a website that helped me a ton with charting my progress and keeping my intake of calories in check:
A bike won't help with your weight and lifestyle...crosscut
Jun 25, 2003 6:49 PM
Assuming you are sincere about this thread, the decision to purchase a bike is dependent on your intent. Are you doing it to lose weight? If you're in college, you probably eat gross amounts of fatty foods and consume large quantities of beer or soda (been there done that). The purchase of a bike alone won't change your weight or stomach size much unless you committ to biking, walking and/or running, watching food intake, and a whole other factors. If you want to remain large (do you play football?) but just trim off a little of the gut, jogging will serve you better. Now, if you want to bike to putz around on, get a good mountain bike and hit the trails. Road riding is fun, but doesn't do much for the physique unless you ride a ga-zillion miles. Again, it depends on what you want to accomplish.
A bike won't help with your weight and lifestyle...magnum
Jun 25, 2003 7:08 PM
>>>Road riding is fun, but doesn't do much for the physique unless you ride a ga-zillion miles. Again, it depends on what you want to accomplish.>>>

I thought that road riding is more beneficial than mountain biking, because mtb the intensity is always changing because of not only speed, but terrain.

And as for your first post - I'm very sincere on losing weight and becoming more fit. I have no desire to stay huge.... I have included a picture of my body that I took tonight. I'm not obease... just very big all over i guess..
here's the picmagnum
Jun 25, 2003 7:11 PM
I suspect...crosscut
Jun 25, 2003 8:34 PM
This guy doesn't weigh 300 lbs. I think everyone is getting trolled...
I suspect...magnum
Jun 25, 2003 8:44 PM

Why would I start this post just to lie in order to get false information to base decisions on?

I'm seriously 290lbs. I'm 6'4'' - 6'5''.... I carry my weight like a champ - that's the only deal. Most people think i weigh in at 230 - 240..... but I don't.... I'm packing some serious meat somewhere.... I guess it's in my arse - i dunno. I seriously weigh weigh in at 290.
I suspect...hatchetman
Jun 26, 2003 3:36 AM
I easily believe he could weigh 290. Looking at the pic he looks very similar body wise to a kid we had playing football for us last year. The kid was 6-4, 295 pounds and looked almost exactly like this pic. I believe magnum. He's just a big guy.
You don't have to ride a gazillion miles...eschelon
Jun 26, 2003 5:56 AM
to get the benefit of road cycling. It's like the saying goes: just because you ran a few thousand miles isn't going to make you win a marathon...there has to be a desire and purpose to what you do as opposed to simply doing it like some robot. In road cycling, quality of training is more important than quantity.
A bike won't help with your weight and lifestyle...briburke
Jun 26, 2003 11:30 AM
I find road biking to be a much more consistent workout than mountain biking. Mountain biking has short sections of high cardio workout, but then it smooths out and is easier. On the road, you can go for as long as you want, at as high an intensity as you want.
Agree with part of this.PseuZQ
Jun 25, 2003 7:57 PM
I agree that the weight won't come off without a lifetsyle change. I also believe that one of the most effective ways to implement that change is to get an active hobby that you really like. Speaking from my own experience, "working out" to lose weight is a drag. 30 minutes on a lifecycle or elliptical trainer is bo-ring. Get hooked on cycling, though, as I did, and you're no longer doing some "weight-loss chore," but riding...doing something you love. Wanna ride better, farther, higher? Drop some lbs and don't eat cr*p. Ideally, riding better becomes the motivation and the weight loss follows. A virtuous circle, if you'll pardon the jargon.

Note I said "ideally."

To the original poster, go for it!! Don't be discouraged if you don't see overnight results, though. Stick with it, and you'll have a lifetime of great rides ahead of you.
Agree with part of this.magnum
Jun 25, 2003 8:09 PM
Right now since I don't own a bike... i use the cycles at the gym for about 30 minutes then lift free weights....

while that's fine... I'd rather get my cardio from a natural setting like a bike - outside... but i dunno.
Jun 26, 2003 4:22 AM
As one who exercises regularly people are always telling me that they "have to start working out". I smile and try to be encouraging but the people I know who exercise regularly do it because they like it and want to. I don't know anybody who finds it a chore and gets it done day in and day out. Some tips that have helped me over the years are:

Work out first thing in the morning whether you see yourself as a morning person or not.

Keep a log of what you did, how it felt, your weight, or any other details you feel are relevant.

Think in terms of time rather than distance. Ride for an hour rather than ride 15 miles.

Have long range goals e.g. 100 mile ride in October, but focus on the last ride until it's time to focus on the next ride. Exercise, like many other positive changes, happens one day at a time.

Make it fun. A guy in a gym once told me "Don't turn a sand box into a salt mine."
ga-zillion miles?filtersweep
Jun 25, 2003 8:42 PM
"Road riding is fun, but doesn't do much for the physique unless you ride a ga-zillion miles. Again, it depends on what you want to accomplish."

What is the ELITIST CRAP thou postest?

I WISH I had started biking seriously at 21. I was in great shape, but I definitely had "other priorities." This is a great time to develop a more disciplined lifestyle.

According to my HRM- my waifish self easily burns at least an extra 2000 calories per non-recovery ride... this guy will likely burn way more calories due to his cardio conditioning (or lack thereof) and his weight on a per minute basis.

"Play football" ? Like what? Is he PRO?? Who "plays football" post-college? The guy says he does NOT want to remain large.

Roadbiking can do wonders for weight loss... obviously "purchasing" the bike doesn't do it, but rather riding it.

Fun? A 70 mile hill A-ride or an April century in the midwest is not generally "fun." It is an ordeal that brings with it a sense of accomplishment.

Seriously- no point in discouraging the guy... granted there is a learning curve to road biking- and results are not instantly achieved... but the guys seems motivated enough.
Jun 26, 2003 5:33 AM
the simple fact is, burn more calories than you take in, you'll lose weight. If biking allows that to happen, the bike will suit him well.

I also disagree that jogging will (necessarily) serve him better. Again, if his choice of riding style burns more calories than his running style for a given time period, biking will serve him well. Not to mention, at 290, there's a lot of stress on the body for running. Doubt he'll maintain (anytime soon) enough duration to actively burn fat over glyco. Bike will certainly be more gentile on the joints and allow a longer effort beyond 30 minutes.

Sounds like the non-swimmers who say 'you cant lose weight swimming'. Luda Kris.
Straight Onchar
Jun 25, 2003 8:50 PM
Buy the bike and get a paperoute with hills.
If you have car, sell it.
and sell the TV, its a worthless drug.
If you have beer, put it in a pack and bring it to me.
Never give upSkooter
Jun 26, 2003 1:07 AM
1st: Cancel your Cable.
2nd: Shop when you arent hungry, and give up fast food and soda. This takes some planning but will pay off.
3rd: Even if you get hammered the night before or eat a whole pizza and feel like hell. Put you ass on the road, for a ride a walk a run or whatever just move.
4th: Set reasonable goals, 10 lbs at a time. When you reach it buy your self something new (exercise related)
5th: Drink tons of water with and in between your meals.
6th: If you dont work out for a few day's or a week throw that ass off the couch and NEVER give up you will succeed if you want to.

Chow Scoots
re:You can lose weight and still eatJimboTero
Jun 26, 2003 3:59 AM
You should be able to lose a lot of weight soon by cycling. I've lost 10 lbs. in a couple months after I got out of shape from knee injury/sickness. To be conservative,you should, if you can check with a doctor if you've never done any cardio- vascular sports (just to make sure you don't have a bum ticker !)
You can surely lose the weight -just start slowly, don't do any serious climbing at first (after you loose 20 or 30 lbs. it'll be MUCH easier on your heart) & be sure to get the strongest rims you can & low gearing on your bike-like Mtn. bike or touring bike range-for when you do have hills. A good bike shop will be able to help you with your needs.
You will be way more active and burn way more calories than before. You can still eat a lot of the things you like, but do it during recovery. Eat pasta before a ride (no meat) and a recovery shake and banana and a little "normal" food after. If you time your dinner or lunch during your recovery ( for 4 hours after a ride) that will go to your legs, not your gut. Latest research shows that if you wait 1 hour after your ride before you have your shake or eat that's best - the golden hour for burning fat. I use that hour to put away the bike,stretch, shower and kick it for a few before I have any recovery food -while drinking plenty of water. And what the other guys say of course is right-don't eat junk food, beer or at night, but as long as you don't eat more than you eat now, believe me the weight will come off !I was out of cycling more than ten years and dropped over 20 lbs.and even did better than O.K. in cat,3 race,within a year of starting again. Remember RECOVERY is the key-then you can ride the next day & so on & on ...........
you will have no problemsandy02
Jun 26, 2003 4:08 AM
I gained weight in my first years of college but I got in with some tri guys and it flew off! Granted I SUFFERED!!!!!!!!! It was 8 or 9 weeks before I could finish a run/ride with out vomiting. But I went from nothing to 20 mph 30mile rides and 7min/mile 4 mile trail runs. By the end of the summer I wasn't only fitter/smaller but could finish in the top 5-10% most biathlon. It took longer to do well in a full tri. IF I had been smarter I would have done more easy work between hard efforts but I was your age and I went hard all of the time. Now I only go hard(avg 20-22mph) two to three times a week and painfully slow the rest of the time (~17-18mph avg) One more thing I didn't gain it back. I would if I stopped but I can't stop now I am an addict
Buy the bikeTower
Jun 26, 2003 4:12 AM
and ride it! I started biking at 295lbs, and in 6 months I was down to 245. Paired the biking with watching the food intake and some trips to the gym to suppliment. No real diet per say, just cut out the junk.

I've pretty much leveled out and not lost anymore since then, but I haven't been as diligent about it either. We recently bought road bikes so that has renewed our interest.

Don't worry about what other riders will think. You're in this for yourself. Plus there are lots of us clydsedales out there.

Try a Pilates class/video too. We recently bought a couple of Pilates DVD's and have been doing them. If you want an ab workout, this is it. Helps with flexibility too.

Good luck & have fun!
re: Some one give it to me straight. I need answers.03Vortex
Jun 26, 2003 4:37 AM
You are ABSOLUTELY doing the right thing. DO NOT listen to what your friend says (he/she is probably jealous of what you want to do). I have been cycling for years as have most others on this board. You will not regret it and you will enjoy yourself. just do not overdue it because you are likely to give up if you injure yourself. take your time. Do it!!!
get the bike and enter something....don440
Jun 26, 2003 5:02 AM
having read through all the posts, for me the easiest motivator to get in shape was to actually enter a race. it was a 5k run at the time, but nonetheless, i had to train. and since i paid the dough, i had to go, i couldn't skip it, so i ran.

if i start getting lazy nowadays, i find some kind of race to enter, some tour to ride in, whatever, and it works. plus, i really like the races. i haven't done any actual road races, just a duathlon, triathlon, mtb race here and there.

and whoever mentioned getting rid of the cable, they were right on. i was paying someone to be lazy and tired. i'd be watching bike races at 1 in the morning, and have to get up at 6.
re: Some one give it to me straight. I need answers.bigcat
Jun 26, 2003 5:04 AM
Here is some advice froma fellow big guy. I am 6'3" roughly 350+. Take your time, set conservative goals and enjoy yourself. You will have some bad times (like am having with all the crazy weather here in Toronto), but the majority of time you will enjoy yourself. It would be a good thing for you to buy a heart monitor when you get your bike as well.

For your bike avoid the truly fancy ultra high end stuff. You will be to big for it. If you get a bike with a carbon fork, try to swap it with a Reynolds Comp or True Temper Tamden fork. They will be stiff enought for you. You should be able to use 32 spokes, just have the shop you buy the bike at check them every 2-3 months for trueness, and tension. The most important thing is to use big tires, 25c and up. This will take the edge off the ride and give your rims a little more cushioning. I ride a custom steel frame but you should be fine on a Cannondale, Trek aluminum, Klien, or the lower Specialized. You really don't want the ultra high stuff because that is where they remove the most material from the frame.
As you can see from my picture with my then new road bike, I am no small fellow. You will have great time and if you take your time you will slim down very well. One other thing, you should really limit your weight training. If you are anything like me if you look at weights you gain mucles mass. If you go to the gym just work on your abs and lower back and your core leg muscles with lifts like squats. Just thses few lifts will maintaine healthy mass but will not turn you into a body builder. You will find the extra muscle mass will become a small hinderance, especially when you are climbing with a fly weight.
Big Cat......magnum
Jun 26, 2003 6:46 AM
Dude, You are the man.

You are right about the gym though. I look at weights and bulk up. I've, as of late, have been working on legs, upper and lower back, and abs primarily. I can put up some big numbers in those areas - except for abs.... Oh my, that's a sore subject - literally.

As for everyone else. Thank you for the responses. I enjoy the gym, but the gym is very repetative. I'm actually paying to go to the gym close to to apartment I live, because it's much better than the school's.

Also - To clarify, I said I had been saving up money since last year.... I meant to say that i have been putting away a little cash here and there - not complete saving for a bike. Just a little here and there so I could purchase a new ride the beggining of summer.
It shouldn't be about the bike...biknben
Jun 26, 2003 5:13 AM
Sorry for chiming in late.

I began riding regularly when I was in high school. I continued to ride and still do. I've never taken a long break from riding.

Between the ages of 18 and 28 I gained 45 pounds while riding. It wasn't until I put my foot down and changed nearly everything that I was able to take off the weight. I increased the riding while reducing my portions and obviously poor food choices. I'm now back down to the weight I was at in HS.

One thing in you original post bothers me. You've been saving up money since the fall, but have you done anything else to prep for this bike. Even at a slow pace you could have taken off 25 lbs already. You mention time in the gym. Get off the bench and get on the stationary bike, treadmill, and stepper. I'm sure you put up huge numbers with the weights and it feels great but ultimately it is doing no good and may hinder your weight lose.

What I would recommend is that you loose some weight, continue to save cash, build your confidence. Your free access to the college gym is all you need now. Set a weight lose goal and buy the bike as a reward for reaching it. What you are doing now is making excuses not to start changing your eating/lifestyle habits NOW. Put the carrot out there and reach for it.
get the bike and enter something....don440
Jun 26, 2003 5:16 AM
having read through all the posts, for me the easiest motivator to get in shape was to actually enter a race. it was a 5k run at the time, but nonetheless, i had to train. and since i paid the dough, i had to go, i couldn't skip it, so i ran.

if i start getting lazy nowadays, i find some kind of race to enter, some tour to ride in, whatever, and it works. plus, i really like the races. i haven't done any actual road races, just a duathlon, triathlon, mtb race here and there.

and whoever mentioned getting rid of the cable, they were right on. i was paying someone to be lazy and tired. i'd be watching bike races at 1 in the morning, and have to get up at 6.
Jun 26, 2003 5:20 AM
Best Decision you will ever Make - Go For it NOWJer77
Jun 26, 2003 7:51 AM

Get down to the shop and get your new bike. I don't know where you are going to school, but it sounds like you have two solid months before class resumes. That is just about enough time to fall in love with riding and the bike. That will keep you going through the fall and hopefully the winter too. I started riding when I was 21 (summer after junior year) and I weighed in at #225. I plopped down $1200 on a new Trek 2100 with RSX components and put 6,000 + miles on it in one year (now I weigh #170). I have never looked back. My buddies gave me a lot of crap about going home early from the bar on Friday and Saturday nights, but I would get up and get 50 or 60 miles in before they even thought about getting out of bed. You will learn a lot about yourself - Go For It. I look forward to hearing updates from you.
you dont need an extreme solutionishmael
Jun 26, 2003 8:29 AM
I think you should start slowly and keep it simple. Riding is fun. Just get a bike and ride. Riding in group rides is even more fun and motivateing. Ask around and find out what's available. Bring enough water and a pump and tube. My only concern is once you start riding your body will change shape and you'll want to adjust your bike. But for starters make sure your bike is comfortable. Get a really comfortable seat(you'll likely take time to find one), good bike shorts/bib that fit tightly(voler's are great) and maybe a shorter stem with some rise till you get in better shape.
you can stil have chips and beer, just after a long ride. It tastes better that way.
what happened to the c40?rufus
Jun 26, 2003 8:48 AM
Jun 26, 2003 9:30 AM
normally i wouldn't consider responding to background noise. let's have a look through the board archives back to last year and reconsider our encouragement of magnum's posts.

"magnum" has been at this since july 12, 2002. same topics.

"magnum" was 6'2" and weighted 260 pounds. he's now 6'4"-6'5" and weighs 300#. a growing boy.

"magnum" agonized over a "$3000 C40". now it's a R1000.

"magnum" posted numerous follow-ups, questions, and the like, but continued to solicit the same info in subsequent posts.

"magnum" recevied buckets of suggestions from well-wishers and sympathetic community members, took some time off, and came back with the same questions (a year later).

"magnum" is at it again.

troll or no, you're wasting keystrokes.

let's let this one fall off the page.

we have a wacko amongst usishmael
Jun 26, 2003 10:48 AM
interesting: he's not your run of the mill mean troll who could bite your hand off. He's a soft, squishy type that just wants to be petted and encouraged. He looks big but he's just a little ball of fluff.

what you listening to? No "breakin" for me yet (I've been playing chess in the park all the time). I need to get a video to get me motivated. Goes over well at parties. Chess, on the other hand, does not make for an exciting party.
pixies: doolittleJS Haiku Shop
Jun 26, 2003 11:16 AM
chess is much more productive as group entertainment with beer & loud music.

i'm saving cardboard boxes for your future career.
pixies: doolittlemagnum
Jun 26, 2003 11:19 AM

Dude, if you're not going to provide any substance to this conversation, then please feel free to no longer post. As for everyone else who has made a contribution, I thank you.
Jun 26, 2003 11:03 AM
I appreciate the support buddy. I am no troll. Just asking questions. It's funny that you have very little to do than to research all my previous posts just to poke fun at the fat kid.

I do appologize if i wasted your time or anyone elses. The truth of the matter is - I'm buying a bike. I think YOU are a little loose with throwing troll remarks out. I don't sit around and cut on people - i don't pass off what i think as fact. Last time I checked newbies were allowed to ask questions. I don't see where you get off nit-picking my posts, unless you're in the running for the biggest son of a b!tch award, then hell, you got my vote. Hope these cards don't have hanging chads.... wouldn't want to take the time for a recount.

Geeeeze dude, get a grip and answer my questions.... You're the one showing more trolling characteristics than me. nuff said.
so how tall are youishmael
Jun 26, 2003 12:00 PM
maybe it changes throughout the day. I heard that happends. In the morning people are much taller than at night, it has to do with gravity. I'm almost six foot in the morning and then at night I shrink down to 5'8". What's your average?
so how tall are youmagnum
Jun 26, 2003 2:21 PM
I'm 6'3'' - 6'4'' .....

if it matters..... it seems as if though some members of this forum just want to discredit me. Apparently my height is under the microscope as well. Apparently, I'm not allowed to grow anymore between the ages of 19 - 22 so.... I guess i'm breaking the laws of physics.

I just wanted some advice. I'm going to be buying my bike next week. I just wanted some advice, words of wisdom, and whatever else anyone wanted to toss my way - minus attacks like the ones i have recieved from JS Haiko (or whatever).
answer my question.rufus
Jun 26, 2003 3:03 PM
what happened to the c40? that's what you were gonna buy last year, and asked all the questions about, and people offered you help then.

now, it's a year later and you still haven't bought a bike, but have been on these boards a couple times asking the same questions about a few different bikes all over again? do you suffer from memory loss, you can't remember the advice people gave you then, so you have to ask the same things all over again? it's either that, or you are just coming on here to waste people's time.

.i vote troll. if not, post a pic when you buy your cannondale next week.
answer my question.magnum
Jun 26, 2003 3:15 PM
you and JS Haiku are the only wastes of space and time I know on the board.... no wonder roadies have a bad rep with some people - you solidfy that mentality.
I'm just jumping on the bandwagonishmael
Jun 26, 2003 4:42 PM
I dont know a thing about you. You seem sincere enough. If you do finally get a bike tell us how it goes. Ask any questions you want. I also forgot everything I asked last year
again, why didn't you buy the c40? (nm)rufus
Jun 27, 2003 8:07 AM
Campy or Shimano? What's the Difference?shamelessgearwhore
Jun 27, 2003 9:01 AM
Do something really radical and crazy!!!Lone Gunman
Jun 26, 2003 5:25 PM
Forget about buying a high end bike, spandex, shoes, all the parafanaliya (my word, my spelling). Go buy a freakin' ballon tire single speed Huffy/Pacific whatever and ride the MUTS trails. When you get sick of that, then plot your next move, couch or fitness? Your line of logic and thinking leads me to believe that you feel that riding a big money machine will lead you to fitness when actually my sugested choice will get you there. You're making this too complicated. Start riding a simple cheap single speed and see where it leads you. Enough already, you have paralysis by analysis, it's making me tired. I gotta go ride.