|reasons why I won't/can't wear lycra||alias 33|
Jun 24, 2003 8:14 PM
|I have never tried lycra but I going to try a pair of baggies with the built in type. I cannot wear the tight stuff because one I have to ride through town to get out (well duh?!) and I have already gotten nearly ran over about 5-6 times just for riding a bike! I think the tighties would make that worse. Secondly I'd like the protection of the extra layer of fabric the baggies provide. I also like the fact that I can carry someting in the pockets. I will most likely be getting some nike baggies at the shop I work at. And the guys in the group rides don't seem to mide my "outlandish" appearence hence the lack of lycra. Also the shorts I'm looking at are now the really baggy type of baggies so they are kinda nice and don't snag. Will I be shunned for the roadie community? BTW there are many "I'm gonna run over yer biker butt with dis' here pick em' up truck cause' yer on my great grandma's, fathers, friend's, mothers', kids' back roads" redneck types.|
|re: reasons why I won't/can't wear lycra||tremblay|
Jun 24, 2003 8:30 PM
|Sounds more like you are paranoid and trying to come up with reasons why you shouldn't wear lycra, as opposed to truly not liking the stuff.
It's fine to ride in baggy shorts if you are cruising about town. I do that when riding to school.
That being said, lycra has its merits. For one, you don't need the extra layer of protection. In many cases, it may do more harm than good, especially if you fall onto ashphalt at a good clip. Second, it may caused unnecessary chafing, especially on longer rides. Third, it's just more comfortable and more efficient to wear. Baggy shorts of any sort are a real drag. Literally.
But, if it floats your boat, then do what you must. I predict you'll be looking at lycra shorts before year's end.
|I used to be too cool for lycra but then I realized...||nicholasdunford|
Jun 24, 2003 9:04 PM
|...that baggies suck. They are hot, they chafe, they have horrible padding, they catch on everything, they make noise, they create drag, and they are still pretty dorky looking. If you are riding a road bike people expect you to wear the gear. I think I get more looks if I am pretending not to be on a road bike. The other thing is that most people don't care who you are or what you are wearing, and if they do, who cares. If you will really get beat up over this, then maybe you should move.|
|Your call on what you should wear...||Breakfast|
Jun 24, 2003 10:08 PM
|...just don't go with the Freeride Moto-look to the extent of pads and full face helmet.
|I don't buy the redneck excuse.||Spoiler|
Jun 24, 2003 10:57 PM
|Has any driver actually threatened to run you over? Have they swerved at you? Have you been verbally threatened? Have they tried using their trucks to intimidate you into wearing baggies instead of lycra?
Are you in less danger wearing baggies because the drivers give you more room on the road when you wear them instead of lycra?
I suspect you're just ashamed to cruise in public wearing nothing but shiny underwear covering your nether regions. We all were at first. Some of us got over it when we realized we could ride further and more comfortably if we weren't worried about looking a little goofy. That's the only reason we ride in groups. We'd rather look goofy together no matter how much we hate eachother.
|spoiler = my hero nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Jun 25, 2003 6:18 AM
|Where the heck do you live?||jesse1|
Jun 25, 2003 2:23 AM
|You can't have more rednecks than where Im at. But I've never felt that wearing lycra would be the reason I occasionally get yelled at. Last night in a group of about 9 of us, a carload of kids thought it would be fun to scream at us. We actually caught up with them at an intersection and passed them only to get a second helping. The best thing to do at that point is to smile and wave.
Now if it came to the point that you really get threatned, and ignoring it won't make it go away, go for the jugular!
Jun 25, 2003 3:37 AM
|when i became 'serious', i fell into the whole hype about how lycra is more comfortable and more aero, and prettymuch necessary.
As I get older, and realize a bike is more than just recreation, I find 'regular' shorts (camp shorts, cargos, etc) FAR more practical than lycra. Pockets, comfort off the bike, cooler than lycra, don't look like an amrstrong wannabe if you stop for lunch or grandmoms picnic, don't retain odors, look nicer on just about everyone.
Unless i'm riding over 40 miles, or racing, I dont even consider lycra. And you dont miss the pad after a few weeks without.
|Not buying the redneck story...||biknben|
Jun 25, 2003 3:43 AM
|Lycra/Spandex too girly for ya? Get the proper clothes and suck it up. Jersey's have pockets for carrying stuff. Get one of those too.
If you've really had that many run-ins with the locals, I doubt they care what you wear.
The proper clothes can send a message to those that want to "F" with you. Look like a serious cyclist to be treated seriously. If you want to dress like a paper boy than expect to take some crap on the road.
|Don the proper shorts and jersey...||wspokes|
Jun 25, 2003 4:16 AM
|Suck it up and don the proper clothes. It will make the ride more enjoyable, assist in going a little faster due to being more comfortable, and thus you may not get harassed as much. I live in redneck country and I will tell you first hand, there have been a few occasions but after many many years, I don't see as many incidents...not even nearly close to what I put up with prior. I don't quite understand the statement that the baggies are the really baggy type and don't snag?? I have a set of baggies I got for mountain biking years ago. I only use them when going to town and running errands and they snag constantly. So I can't envision a set of baggies not hanging up occasionally on the seat when transfering from stand to sit on climbs and such. Being a cyclist, your gonna get harassed...it is a fact. Learn to not make eye contact when some occur, ignore and resist the urge to sign the digit of love to them in return (remember, you are a mere minor weight in comparison with a ton of metal), and then for those rare occurances carry some pepper spray...it works not only on dogs...in fact...I have yet to use my pepper spray on a dog, and I have indeed used it once before! It works. Good luck and enjoy the riding!|
|"being a cyclist, you're going to get harassed"||Steve_0|
Jun 25, 2003 4:29 AM
|glad to live where I do, i guess.|
|"being a cyclist, you're going to get harassed"||wspokes|
Jun 25, 2003 6:27 AM
In my younger years...I was on a ride my friend and we encountered a drunk coming home the morning after his binge. He cut us off...my friend lipped off and the car turned and came over to where we were...I told my buddy to distract him and try to get him out of the car...we stayed far enough away from him, he got out to jaw at my bud and I locked his car doors (front and back drivers side) while the car was still running. then we left. up the road we called the staties...
Ahh, the younger years of foolishness.
|Technical clothing has a purpose! nm||Live Steam|
Jun 25, 2003 4:17 AM
|one of my buddies says he "doesn't want to look gay"||Frith|
Jun 25, 2003 5:26 AM
|by wearing lycra. I told him that it looks more like he's clinging to a thread imagined heterosexuality and this over compensation perhaps points to some latent tendancies towards "the other side". He went out and bought lycra shorts the next day to prove he was a real man :-).|
|Good one!! nm||wspokes|
Jun 25, 2003 6:28 AM
|How many gay people do you know that wear lycra??||Alexx|
Jun 25, 2003 7:12 AM
|I mean, really! Most gay people wouldn't be caught dead wearing lycra-it's just soooooo mid-80's!
I think he's worried more about whether his 'package' is either too noticeable, or isn't noticeable enough...
|"...will I be shunned by the roadie community?"||coonass|
Jun 25, 2003 5:50 AM
|Roadies won't shun you, but you will probably be the only one on the road with the shorts.....and that should be enough to raise a few eyebrows. Of course, if you're just going to ride around the block with the wife, the shorts would be fine, but I would give it more thought if you went on a roadie group ride......
p.s.: the next time you see 'RED' loctite on unassembled parts; ask yourself if this will ever need to be disassembled. If so, remove the 'red' and apply the 'blue'.
|"...will I be shunned by the roadie community?"||Macho Man Savage|
Jun 25, 2003 6:13 AM
|What is all this harrasment talk? Is this a problem only in the US? I've never been harrassed here in Canada.|
|too busy checking to make sure your speaking french (nm)||andy02|
Jun 25, 2003 7:58 AM
Jun 25, 2003 6:41 AM
|baggies are fashion over function. they are always getting caught on your seat. they are hotter and they are not as comfortable as regualr lycra shorts. carry stuff in your jersey pockets. that's what they are for. if people can't handle your looking at the outline of your choad then that is their problem.|
|Just recently, I was walking around the house in bibknickers,||bill|
Jun 25, 2003 7:37 AM
|a sleeveless wicking undershirt (having removed my smelly, dirty jersey) and ankle socks, with my shaved calves peaking out between. I had to marvel that my wife now considers this, for her bike-addled, midlife crisis husband, normal. When I pointed it out to her, she marveled for a moment, too, before rolling her eyes.
The technical stuff has a purpose, works better than the technical stuff for other purposes, and you get used to it. Don't be foolish. I didn't like the way the stuff looked or felt at first, either, but after a while, you appreciate its function to the point where you just don't care.
As for who cares -- I don't think you'll get better treatment from rednecks, and you are going to be seen by roadies as, apparently, what you are, someone so uncomfortable with the way that stuff that works looks that you won't wear it.
|Hah, I got you beat!||Mel Erickson|
Jun 25, 2003 10:12 AM
|My wife has become accustomed to the "biker" attire too. Some times I flaunt it in front of her to get a rise but she's too jaded to respond anymore. Now, show up at your daughters soccer game after a ride in your "kit" and see what reaction you get (hair all peaked from being sucked out your helmet vents, jersey unzipped, salt stains, etc.). The reaction won't come until you get home, she'll be too embarrassed to even acknowledge you at the game. Flak jacket and flame retardant suit recommended.|
Jun 25, 2003 7:52 AM
|Sounds like justification. Its your bike and your free to ride in in whatever you like--as long as your delicate parts are not introducing themselves to the neighbors. (That topic was discussed in another recent thread.) So wear what you like and don't worry about what other people think.
I wear tight lycra shorts is because I need the padding, they're cooler and more comfortable than shorts with 2 layers, they dry quicker than cotton, and baggy shorts blow up when I ride, revealing too much of Kristin to cyclists and drivers traveling the opposite direction. I don't wear tight lycra because I worry about what other people think.
Look for my next topic, "Confessions of a hypocrite," coming soon.
Jun 25, 2003 10:52 AM
|"as long as your delicate parts are not introducing themselves to the neighbors. (That topic was discussed in another recent thread.)"
When was this discussed? Sounds good for a laugh. . .
|Commute M & F||MisJG|
Jun 25, 2003 12:32 PM
|I was riding down Warrenville on my white Schwinn w/ red/black panniers on Monday. It would have been around 5 or a little before. I get off work at 4 but some days can't get mounted up for the ride home 'till 4:30 or so. I think Monday was one of those days. Tough ride home Monday. Ran a 5k on Sunday so I was a little tired by the end of the day. Add wind and 15 pounds worth of panniers (I gotta lighten that load!) and you get the idea. I was wearing a yellow sleeveless jersey. The only days I can bike commute are Mondays and Fridays.|
|So, was it me you saw? (nm)||MisJG|
Jun 26, 2003 6:17 AM
|So, was it me you saw? (nm)||Kristin|
Jun 26, 2003 6:29 AM
|Not unless you were riding a black trek with black panniers. Everytime I pass a commuter though, I wonder to myself if that's MisJG. Now I know what bike you ride I'll keep my eyes peeled and give you extra berth. :)|
|Look for the Flashing Lights. . .||MisJG|
Jun 26, 2003 7:06 AM
|Since I decided this bike was to be dedicated as a commuter/errand/pull-the-kid-trailer bike, I loaded it up with safety in mind. A flashing tail-light on the seat post, a flashing tail-light on the rack and a flashing yellow light up front. Run them all the time, morning and afternoon. I figured people driving to work in the morning needed all the help I could give them to see me 'till the coffee kicks in. . .|
|I hadn't seen that. Its kinda sad. nm||Kristin|
Jun 25, 2003 1:25 PM
|I guess that's one advantage I've never really thought about.||theBreeze|
Jun 25, 2003 7:58 AM
|Being a female, people like the shaved legs and Lycra look. :)|
|OK, OK, GEEZ!!||alias 33|
Jun 25, 2003 12:23 PM
|Man what an out pour of criticizm! I actually just got back from buying a pair of shorts and they are the one, the only, lycra!! GASP, WISPERS, SCREAMS!! Did I scumb to your peer pressure? No, I just thought that the regular lycra felt better than the baggies with the built in stuff. And BTW how am I supposed to know the stem had red loctite on the bolts if it was alreadly installed in the bike, dumb@$$|| |