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2 questions....(9 posts)

2 questions....SLR
Jun 24, 2003 2:01 AM
1. What does it mean to be called "Fred"?

2. I like the bend of Easton's EC90 bar but can only afford the EA70, do they have a similar ergo bend? The Deda and Ritchey bars set up horizontal at the hoods and that's what feels good to me. I hope the EA70 is the same way.

Thanks,
SLR
Freds:Alexx
Jun 24, 2003 3:24 AM
I've encountered 2 types of Freds. The first, the original Fred, is the guy who owns a nice road bike (recent vintage), but rides it wearing jeans or cargo shorts, and usually has some sort of flat pedal (i.e., non-clipless) on it. Bonus points are given for jury-rigged racks, but they are rare.
Type 2, sometimes spelled Phred, are those counter-culturists wh wear sandals, ride older road bikes, old raleighs, etc., and hang out in coffee shops.

Below is probably the ultimate Fred or Phred bike. Yes, somebody actually owns this:
Pic:Alexx
Jun 24, 2003 3:25 AM
let's try that again.....
Even I would never do something like that...The Walrus
Jun 24, 2003 11:07 AM
...that is just plain sick.

"Fred" is just a term used by riders who've got so little going on themselves that they've got to look down on someone else.
Fred....Dwayne Barry
Jun 24, 2003 7:43 AM
in a general sense is someone who either:

1) Does not adopt the appropriate style of wear befitting a serious cyclist.

2) Behaves in a manor not befitting a serious cyclist.

Often the two are encountered together and of course who is and who is not a Fred will depend on who's doing the judging.
FredSteve_0
Jun 24, 2003 7:49 AM
'Fred' is a term given to others by roadie snobs who think there's an 'appropriate' way to dress or equip for cycling. Usually expressed by those who have spent serious coinage on kit and bike, yet realize no more enjoyment than those they scoff
Fredrayclark
Jun 24, 2003 7:31 PM
Well said Steve_O...couldn't agree more.
re: 2 questions....bcm119
Jun 24, 2003 3:10 PM
If you are a Fred it means you might have some silly looking equipment, a mix of expensive and cheap equipment, or have the attitude that if it ain't broke don't fix it, and ride really really old equipment. It all depends on who's calling you a Fred. Its really just a funny term thats used all in good fun. The only ring of truth in it is that newer, more expensive equipment really is more comfortable and can increase your enjoyment of riding. I think that knowledge is often confused for snobbery, because many folks just won't believe that new equipment is any better. In most cases it is, and by better I don't just mean more efficient, I mean more comfortable.
likewiseSteve_0
Jun 25, 2003 3:41 AM
many folks just won't believe that some old equipment is far superior than new.