|are Campy wheels durable ?||Crash|
Jun 21, 2003 10:59 PM
|I'm planning the build for my new Fondriest Carb Level, going with Chorus (I've always wanted a bike with Campy it would seem a sin to put anything else on it). I'm struggling with the wheelset to use. I'm around 210, but not that hard on equipment and I've never trashed out a wheel. I've been using mainly Ksyrium's over the last 3-4 years, first the original SSC's than my current Elite's. I've been very happy with them, but I'd love to try something different and I especially would like to go with Campy. Whenever I mention Campy wheels with the LBS around here (SoCal) they make it seem that if you're over 170 or so they will never hold up. I'd really like Neutrons or Eurus, but Proton's would be OK as well. For anyone that has had them are Campy wheels really that fragile? I've also heard that it can be a hassle installing tires on Campy wheels, but I can live with that. Anything else I should try or am I destined for SL's or maybe Velomax Orion II's?|
|re: are Campy wheels durable ?||fasteddie|
Jun 22, 2003 8:00 AM
|I've been riding a set of Nucleon's for about 2 years. I weigh about 205lbs, put about 2,500 miles on them and never even had to consider truing or messing with the hubs. I use GP3000s and they are VERY easy to install/remove. Very quick wheels, especially sprinting and uphill climbs. Only issue I can think of is that they don't SEEM to be as fast on downhill stretches as a set of Vector Comps I had on a previous bike.|
|Have about 4000 miles on a pair of Eurus . . .||Look381i|
Jun 22, 2003 10:15 AM
|with no problems at all. Still perfectly true. I ride reasonably good roads but have hit my share of bumps and potholes.
Michelin Pro Races fit a little snugger than on my Ksyriums, but they stretch over time.
I weigh between 170 and 180, depending on the time of year, so I am just at or above the limit suggested by your LBS folks. I know one heavier than I am who runs Campy wheels, so they might be right.
My coasting descents are faster than any of my riding buddies, no matter what their size, wheels, or other equipment. But that is also true on my Ksyriums.
|Michelin pro race "snug".||the bull|
Jun 22, 2003 11:21 AM
|That is a understatement!
It is near a near death experience mounting a tire on a Eurus!
Personally I had terrible experinces with the Eurus wheels!
The first set I got had a god awful pulse (as they were dented)and the second set I got never made it to the truing stand to get checked.The front hub had a spot in the bearing that felt like a detent.
Of the eight eurus wheels I have trued out of the box they all need extensive truing.
I think they are nice wheels though and I have tried not to ever flame them.
Very aero light and stiff! My friend has a set with no problems I guess I was just unlucky.But I never give anyone a third chance!Nomatter who they are.
|re: are Campy wheels durable ?||nazgul|
Jun 22, 2003 1:04 PM
|I have about 6000 miles on a set of Protons (w/ a shimano compatible freehub body). They have been fairly bombproof, I've only had to true the front once. The freehub body is not of the highest quality as the cassette has deformed the splines a bit here and there (a teammate had the same problem). After a few races in horrible rain last collegiate season, my bearings in front have started to make a pretty unpleasant noise, so I guess it's time to replace them.
I also got a set of Eurus wheels for a Don Racer I'm building about a week ago. I only have 50 miles on them so I can't comment on durability, but they feel a bit easier to accelerate than the Protons (as they should, they are more than 100grams lighter). I also think the Protons are a bit more comfortable.
FWIW, I am 150lbs, but I tend to hit potholes every now and then.
|Oh, and as far as getting tires on them...||nazgul|
Jun 22, 2003 1:08 PM
|I have a pretty hard time getting GP3000s on the campy rims. There is no way I can do it without levers when they are new.|
|Neutrons as well...||Roger H|
Jun 22, 2003 7:45 PM
|I sold my Eurus wheels because of the difficulty involved mounting tires. I can easily mount tires on my Open pros with no levers. I bought a set of Neutrons thinking they would be easier, but they seem more difficult than the Eurus! I don't understand why they would make rims that are so difficult to put tires on? Oh, otherwise, I really like the wheels. Ride smooth, look great.|
|Why not just build on Chorus hubs?||Kerry|
Jun 22, 2003 4:34 PM
|A set of Velocity Aeroheads or OPs plus a Chorus hub will give you equivalent performance to the wheels you suggest, will be something you or your LBS can maintain, and will save you huge $$. Unless you think looks are more important than performance.|
|Not just looks||Crash|
Jun 22, 2003 8:08 PM
|Good point about wheel build. The looks aren't as important to me as the quality of the wheel. Where is a good place to get a Record / Open Pro wheelset built?|
|Colorado Cyclist or Excel Sports for the best....||Juanmoretime|
Jun 23, 2003 1:10 AM
|price on a hand built wheel if you don't have a qualified LBS near you.|
|Electrons have worked great for me.||dzrider|
Jun 23, 2003 5:44 AM
|They accelerate nicely and have stayed round and true for 2.5 years. I think Protons , their successors, are a good value for a lighter wheel.|
|How about the Campy Scirocco?||supercomp|
Jun 23, 2003 8:12 PM
|How about the Campy Scirocco? That would seem to be a more durable Campy wheel.|| |