|Mounting the shift levers to the bars?||nicholasdunford|
Jun 19, 2003 10:50 PM
|I was told today that I "need a lesson in mounting the shift levers to the bars." I did not mount the levers, my LBS did and supposedly the shop I go to is well known for their bicycle fitting. So I am confused and wonder if anyone can explain this. I know the stem angle is steep, and the bars are rotated up more than usual, but that is because I want a comfortable ride. As for the brake levers I would like to know what is wrong?|
Jun 19, 2003 11:04 PM
|Your bars are rotated up higher than I normally see. It's easier to slip off if you stand while on the drops- but that really is a preference issue.
Otherwise I dont see anything wrong with your setup
|Have you seen Lance's setup?||Matno|
Jun 20, 2003 1:58 AM
|His brakes are at least that high. Personally, I don't think it looks all that cool (it's just not "sleek"), but I have my brakes rotated high too. If it's comfortable, that's where they should be!|
|Mine brake hoods are up there too.||dzrider|
Jun 20, 2003 8:26 AM
|I like the top of the bar close to parallel to the ground from the stem all the way to the hoods. This puts the hoods higher than the bar and lets me ride with the handlebar lower. I like how it feels both on the hoods and on the drops and that's what matters. The idea is to find a set-up that lets you reach the brake levers easily and ride comfortably for a long time in more than one position. All other considerations are secondary at best often total nonsense.|
|Nothing wrong, keep 'm where you like 'm (nm)||Stampertje|
Jun 20, 2003 2:01 AM
Jun 20, 2003 3:48 AM
|fashion-conscience, herd-following friend he needs 'a lesson in individuality'. and manners.|
|re: Mounting the shift levers to the bars?||Tower|
Jun 20, 2003 4:07 AM
|Nothing wrong with your set up if it's comfortable for you.
How do you like the Zurich? I'm really enjoying mine!
|I made the suggestion...||C-40|
Jun 20, 2003 4:44 AM
|The angle of the bars and the brake levers must work together. If the bars were rotated down to the angle that they were intended to be used, thean the levers would be angled way too low.
As it is, the angle of the levers is OK, but the bars sure look dumb. The drop section is swept back to creat a comfortable angle when riding in the drops. The extreme rotation of the bars makes the drop section nearly vertical, which would generally create an uncomfortatble angle of the wrist when riding in the drop section.
I guess if it works for you, I'll shut up. I see all sort of strange setups.
|are you comfortable?||tarwheel|
Jun 20, 2003 4:54 AM
|The most important issue is whether you are comfortable or not. If you are, then ignore comments from me or anyone else. I also have high handlebars with a riser stem and spacers, and it works for me. If I drop my bars too low, my hands get numb and neck hurts. However, the way you have your handlebars angled down toward the back, it seems like it would be difficult to ride in the drops. One of the big advantages of having higher handlebars is being able to actually use your drops, while many cyclists with low bars never use theirs. You might try rotating your bars forward so that the drops are about level. If that makes the position on the hoods too low, then move the shifters up a little on the bars. |
If you are new to cycling, I think you are starting out the right way position-wise. You can always lower your handlebars later if you get more flexible. However, once you have cut the steerer tube on a threadless system, you're pretty much out of luck if you need to go higher. As you ride more, you may find it comfortable to go with a longer stem and more drop. But don't feel like you have to set up your bike that way to conform to some style council. There is no correct way to set up handlebars -- it always depends on what works for you.
|re: Mounting the shift levers to the bars?||ctheronj|
Jun 20, 2003 4:54 AM
|I think the only handlebar/brake/etc setup I'd be willing to classify as "wrong" is on those beater ten-speeds when people rotate the bars around so the drops are on the top with the brake levers facing aft. I hate that. If you've seen it you know what I'm talking about... if you haven't I sincerely hope you never will.|
|I see that a lot in the innercity and on MUTs...||Fez|
Jun 20, 2003 5:30 AM
|They are not roadies, just people in pants and shirts out riding an old bike.
Do they do this because it looks/feels good, or is the stem completely rusted in the headtube so they get more height just flipping the entire thing around?
That is pretty funny, though. Most of them ride as if they are under the influence of something.
|Nothing. Lots of one-dimensional crap advice given here.||Fez|
Jun 20, 2003 5:05 AM
|The advice you get here is a crapshoot. Some good, some not.
Some give very one-dimensional crap advice and believe any setup with spacers or that does not have a 10cm drop from top of saddle to top of bars is not "cool".
There is more than one way to setup a bike, and everyone's needs are a little different.
Your bars are rotated a bit extreme so that the bottom of the drops are far from parallel to the ground. A rule of thumb is keep them parallel or slightly angled.
As far as the shift levers, another rule of thumb would be if you held a ridig straight edge or a hardback book underneath the bottom of the drops, it would not touch (or barely touch) the bottom of the shift lever.
Keep riding. Nice new bike, btw.
|There is absolutely nothing wrong with your setup||Trent in WA|
Jun 20, 2003 7:25 AM
|It looks like your LBS attempted to emulate an old-school bike setup on a new-school bike. I have two bikes with the bars and brake levers set up similarly to yours, ride them long distances, and find them quite comfortable. Don't sweat it.|
|If it feels good3, do it.||KG 361|
Jun 20, 2003 7:36 AM
|Nothing wrong. Mine is rotated up too, a tad. Not as much as yours, but if you are comfy on it, don't sweat it.|
|I'm going through the SAME thing right now!||shamelessgearwhore|
Jun 20, 2003 8:00 AM
|Over the last month I have experimented with various positions of the bar and the hoods.
- First I tried rotating the bar about as high as you have it now. It does make riding on the hoods more comfortable but your drops will point down too much to be useful. I nixed that plan.
-Second I tried moving the position of the hoods radically up the bar so in theory I could accomplish what you are trying to get at. Namely high angle comfort with the hoods while keeping the position that your bar is designed to be used at. This shortened the distance from the flat part of the bar to the hoods and my wrists were absolutely killing me after 15 miles. Bad.
The thing with having your shifters at a steep angle like that is that you lose some control when you get out of the seat. Bad.
-So Third, I moved the hoods almost back to their original position (just a half inch higher up the bar) and tilted the bars to the angle they are designed for while raising my bar by one spacer. I think I am about done tweaking. What you are attempting to accomplish would require REDESIGNING the hoods.
The problem is that drop bars are designed to accomodate MANY different hand positions and that when you attempt to adjust them to favor one, you sacrifice performance with another. If you can get it so that its "pretty good" for three totally separate hand positions I think you should stop tweaking.
|Mounting shift levers to the bars.||Spoke Wrench|
Jun 21, 2003 7:54 AM
|You should ask the "professor" how they should be mounted. I'm betting he says "So the bottom of the lever just hits a line extended from the drops." Try to make a substantial wager with the jerk then line a straight edge from the end of your bars to the tips of your brake levers.|| |