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Armstrong and Heras 1 and 2 in TdF...(7 posts)

Armstrong and Heras 1 and 2 in TdF...QUiTSPiNiNArOuND
Jun 18, 2003 7:47 PM
Just a random thought, Heras leads the volta. Hope Heras keeps form to win vuelta.
I'd be very surprised...Dwayne Barry
Jun 19, 2003 2:01 AM
he won Catyluna last year and didn't podium at the TdF. His time trialing is so weak that he needs to take big time from the other GC guy in the mountains, which he was unable to do even on the very steep Vuelta climbs last year. And in the tour he needs to pace Armstrong half way up the final climb and launch him before he can even start thinking about himself. Armstrong runs a tight ship, when was the last time a Postal rider in the tour had a chance for any glory of their own?

(BTW, I'd put money on Ullrich winning the Vuelta and one of the world championships).
Ditto...teoteoteo
Jun 19, 2003 4:59 AM
I think the leash on Heras will a be a little short for that kind of effort. The only way i'd see it happening was if other favorites crapped the bed in a BIG way, and it would have to be ALL of them. The math on that happening isn't realistic.
Don't think so either...noveread
Jun 19, 2003 7:27 AM
Another factor beyond those already mentioned is the fact that this year's tour route is not quite so heavily favored for the climbers. Yes, there are plenty of mountains, but what a rider like Heras needs to podium/win are tough mountain-top finishes. Not the numbers of those this year as compared to last year.

Noveread
nopeDougSloan
Jun 19, 2003 7:34 AM
Heras' job is to sacrafice himself to help Armstrong. If he's doing that job well, he should blow up 3/4's the way up a mountain pulling Lance as long and hard as he can.

Time trialing is another matter, too.

Doug
I know it can't happen, but think...QUiTSPiNiNArOuND
Jun 19, 2003 7:47 AM
You saw how Heras pulled him to the last 200m in one of the mountain finishes...well this year, theres only, what, three mt finishes. Lance never attacked at Dauphine, maybe because the gains he got would not be enough to carry him down the descent, so my guess is that Heras will pull armstrong and his group at a punishing pace over the top of he hill, and who evers in that grup will finish s.t. That would mean heras would pull the s.t. as armstrong, except for time bonuses. Again, as you guys said, he needs better TT abilities.
re: Armstrong and Heras 1 and 2 in TdF...pnitefly
Jun 19, 2003 8:30 AM
The main thing you forgot is that Heras cannot time trial very well. He blew a minute something lead in the Vuelta and lost to Aitor Gonzalez in the final time trial of that race. It is absolutely essential that a TDF winner have exceptional climbing ability and not lose time in the time trials. Time trials are Hera's enemy and he knows it. 2nd place looks very unlikely because guys like Beloki, Gonzalez and Botero (on a good day) can do these things very well and aren't held into a "domestique" role.