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How long to you lead the paceline??(10 posts)

How long to you lead the paceline??benja15
Jun 18, 2003 5:56 PM
I'm curious to know the norm or about how long a person is expected to lead the pace

i suppose it depends on how good of a rider you are as well as amount of hills and wind
re: How long to you lead the paceline??Bruno S
Jun 18, 2003 6:28 PM
When all riders have a similar level of fitness and the paceline is going hard, 45 seconds to 90 seconds would be normal.
about rightDougSloan
Jun 18, 2003 7:33 PM
Certainly not long enough that your speed drops or you have trouble reattaching at the end.

Doug
Watching the Giro,...jesse1
Jun 19, 2003 2:17 AM
...I was really surprised to see these guys pulling for about 10 seconds when working together! But I & my buddies usually pull for about 90 seconds (+/-) depending on individual fitness & machisimo. That probably isn't the best & most efficient way to go, but I'd say do what you feel like unless the group agrees to something else.
It depends on what you're doing...Dwayne Barry
Jun 19, 2003 3:07 AM
if your just setting a tempo than taking longer pulls in single file is fine, when the lead rider is finished he pulls off and drops to the back. If the goal is to go as fast as possible you want to take short pulls (how short will depend on how many riders you have working together) in a rotating double pace-line. The fastest way is "thru and off" that way the rider moving to the front, in effect, sling shots past the rider who has just moved over and begun to rotate back. The rider who pulled thru immediately moves into the line going backwards as soon as he clears the wheel of rider he just passed and another rider comes thru as soon as the previous rider moves over.
re: How long to you lead the paceline??tarwheel
Jun 19, 2003 4:30 AM
On our group rides, the guy in front generally pulls from about 1/2 mile to 2 miles -- in time, that would be 90 seconds to 5-6 minutes. Shorter pulls when it's windy and very hilly, longer on flat easy stretches. We're not trying to set any speed records, though, and probably would be more efficient with shorter pulls.
Yeah, depends on contextRay Sachs
Jun 19, 2003 4:54 AM
Racing is one thing, but most of us find ourselves in pacelines in plenty of other situations. I tend not to ride in groups, but it seems like on one of the local centuries every year, I find myself in a paceline over the last 15 or so miles (which are blessedly flat after about 60 miles of tough hills). It's more of a survival thing than a speed thing at that point, and whoever is strong pulls.

A couple of years ago, I felt strong as an ox in that last section for some reason and was maintaining a good pace, passing a lot of people. After about 15 minutes of this, I looked back and realized I'd picked up about 6 or 7 guys who all looked like they were hurting and glad for the tow. I kept feeling good and led pretty much the whole way back, with other guys taking the occasional token pull. Most years, though, I'm the guy getting passed and latching on. Last year I was dying and looking for a wheel to latch onto. Got in with a group of about four others and it was the same situation - the lead guy was feeling good and pulled most of the way with the rest of us taking short pulls when we could. Not the "textbook" way to run a paceline, for sure, but the most appropriate under the circumstances.

-Ray
Until I start breathing harder.dzrider
Jun 19, 2003 5:51 AM
Breathing easily for me is in for 2 revolutions out for 2 revolutions. When I get to the front I ride until I have to pick up my breathing to in for 1 out for 1 in order to hold the pace. As soon as that happens I pull off. If I can't recover quickly at the back of the line, I go off the back and hope another line catches me.
This way I take longer pulls when I feel better and don't get caught in a paceline that's harder than riding alone - a mistake that can really hurt on a long ride.
re: How long to you lead the paceline??godot
Jun 19, 2003 8:25 AM
On easy rides, or rides when I'm one of the stronger riders (a rare occurence at best), I'll pull until my speed starts to drop.

On rides when the all the riders are pretty even, pulls normally last 30 to 45 seconds. Long enough to do some work, but short enough that you aren't spent in case someone decides to randomly take a flier off the front (which seems to happen with fair regularity in our group). In fact, it's become a bit of a tradition to hammer someone that stays up front too long. It's a very quick and painful way to learn that "hero" pulls are not a good thing.

On fast, hard days, I spend as little time up front as possible. There are too many riders in the group that are much stronger than me. Once I can finish with the lead group on these rides, I'll start taking pulls. Until then taking any pull just results in my getting shelled more quickly. Luckily it's a pretty mellow group that doesn't really mind this behavior.
re: How long to you lead the paceline??Spunout
Jun 19, 2003 8:40 AM
If we can get out act together into a rotating echelon, you`re never more than five secons at the front and it keeps getting faster. I love that!

On slower rides, I will do my intervals on the front up to 10 minutes at a time with the group strung out. If it is my rest day, a minute or two until lactic buildup moves me off.