|Touring Frame for Project build||pitt83|
Jun 17, 2003 5:12 PM
|I'm romancing the idea of building a tourer. One which has braze-ons for racks and bags, one which I can load down with gear for the long haul.
Ideas about where to find a frame? Nothing high end or custom, just standard HQ steel. Everything seems geared towards weight reduction for racing and training. I need the opposite, decently light, but very sturdy.
Also, are standard 105 / Ultegra OK for this or should I consider XT / LX for gearing and life expectancy?
|Great idea ...||KeeponTrekkin|
Jun 17, 2003 5:33 PM
|If I didn't already have a steel touring bike (late '80s French built MBK) which I "upgraded" to 3x9-speed Shimano, I'd do what you're contemplating.
I would prepare for hills and would opt for the XT/LX derraileur for lower gearing. I did a "custom cassette", modifying a standard Shimano 12-27, making it into a 13-34. Closer ratios for road work is better for me than the wider spaced ratios of a MTB cassette. If price were not too critical, I'd get the Ultegra triple and Ultegra shifters but I'm sure 105 would be good. I have 105 hubs with mavic cxp-21 rims - a good compromise of weight and strength (heavy riders, should go for the 36 spoke lacing).
As to frame, you might look into Rivendell. There are a number of small volume (but not "high end or custom") framebuilders and I'm sure others will suggest them as I'm not experienced with them.
My bike has fenders and I highly recommend them...
|try www.somabikes.com (nm)||MrDan|
Jun 17, 2003 5:39 PM
Jun 17, 2003 9:04 PM
Jun 17, 2003 9:08 PM
|Didn't realize that somabikes.com also worked, I've always used the somafab.com homepage.
I should add though that the bikes are very well made and very affordable. The welds are clean, the paint glossy, worth every penny and more.
|re: Touring Frame for Project build||Dave Hickey|
Jun 17, 2003 5:43 PM
|Try sjscycles.com. They're in the UK and have plenty of touring frames for sale|
|Touring Bikes=Bruce Gordon Frames!||philippec|
Jun 18, 2003 12:36 AM
|If you arre serious about touring you cannot pass over Bruce Gordon -- he's a bit quirky but makes some of the best touring frames (not too expensive) and racks in the US. I think they sell their bikes as frames -- the BLT series are an especially good value.
|GVH Bikes||Len J|
Jun 18, 2003 2:59 AM
|Jeff Lyon Excursion
Reynolds 725, Biscayne blue w/gold decals, 57cm t.t., filet brazed by master framebuilder Jeff Lyon in Grants Pass, OR.. Designed for everyday riding or touring; rack and fender eyelets front and rear, long wheelbase to accommodate wider tires, uses long reach sidepull calipers which I have in stock, NEW. $695.00
|Great ideas; thanks all.||pitt83|
Jun 18, 2003 3:58 AM
|The GVH and soma ideas look attractive; Rivendell is real nice, but well out of $$. Thanks for the cassette suggestions too.
Think this will become my winter project and will buy as much as I can on closeouts.
|Another vote for a Lyon excursion.||dzrider|
Jun 18, 2003 4:43 AM
|It feels quick on shop rides, comfortable on brevets, and, with a wheel change, sturdy enough for touring. It's not the least bit fancy, which is fine with me.|
Jun 18, 2003 8:17 AM
|The Lyon frames are a great choice and you can order custom directly from Lyon, www.lyonsport.com. He also makes a sport-touring frame that can be built with eyelets for racks and fenders for about $800. Other good options are the Rivendell Rambouillet, which sells for about $950 frame/fork and headset. Also check out Heron, which is based on Rivendell design and has touring and racing models.|
Jun 18, 2003 5:20 AM
|why not buy an inexpensive tourer? for $600 you can get an
entire bike that you might actually ride in the rain and leave oudoors without crying ;-).
while I admit the parts spec is low ball..you could afford to upgrade those that offend you.
Jun 18, 2003 5:35 AM
|In Toronto are great to deal with. They make an inexpensive no frills touring frame...check their website. www.ucycle.com |
only $425CAD so about $300USD
I know there are a couple people on this board who can vouch for their frame building quality.
|I've kind of had my eyes on||B2|
Jun 18, 2003 6:36 AM
|the "King of Mercia" touring frame made by Mercian. http://www.btinternet.com/~merciancycleslimited/index.htm
I don't know what shipping runs (from the UK) for a frame, but their price is $546US. Although you said you don't need custom, it looks to me that they will do custom for the same price. If you figured $100 for shipping, $650 really isn't too bad for nice frame and fork.
I don't know if I would call it "decently light" as you have specifed, but it appears to meet the rest of your requirements.
I've been trading correspondence with them and I am in the process of trying to find out what kind of clearance there is for larger tires and fenders.