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Bortolami busted ...(9 posts)

Bortolami busted ...El Guapo
Jun 17, 2003 1:24 PM
As per a previous post concerning the merits of Cortizone as a saddle sore reliever and in steroid testing, Bortolami has tested positive (non-negative) for CORTIZONE usage.
One report...Dwayne Barry
Jun 18, 2003 2:43 AM
even names the drug as Kenacort (i.e. the same one Voet mentions as the popular corticosteroid). I assume you're being facetious when you talk about as a saddle sore reliever. My understanding is that even bathing in topical corticosteroid creams wouldn't lead to the blood levels necessary to fail a drug test.
Facetious ...El Guapo
Jun 18, 2003 6:21 AM
Yes, indeed. An earlier post by TeoTeo inquired as to possible saddle sore relievers. One poster suggested cortizone cream. I know that the cream might not show enough of the steroid, unless it was a prescription strength 1% or greater and applied QUITE liberally. However, as a frequent poison ivy sufferer, I have to sometimes have either cortizone injections (I cannot remember the exact name of the injection) or take it in pill format (Prednizone). Either of these completely legally and medically approved cures could result in "non-negative" results.
Yeah, not to mention...Dwayne Barry
Jun 18, 2003 7:15 AM
that it's questionable, or at least it's never been shown, that corticosteroids can actually improve performance despite their apparent (at one time, still?) use as a doping agent.
I agree, but ....El Guapo
Jun 18, 2003 7:41 AM
Some would say that if Coricosteroids, injected into swollen or otherwise injured joints, could reduce the swelling and pain enough so as to allow an athlete to perform at optimal levels despite said injury, then those Corticosteroids can technically be defined as "performance enhancing" or even "performance facilitating." Either way, it's a slippery slope. Corticosteroid injections are rampant in professional sports such as American Football, baseball and other sports where severe impacts and stresses are placed on joints. Sad thing is ... only the non-marquise players typically inject because they HAVE to play through an injury in order to feed their families. Franchise players (Deione Sanders, et al.) can claim "turf toe" and sit out a season. Most linemen in American football play on injured joints to the point that most are crippled later in life due to severe degeneration of their knees and ankles. I think "performance enhancing" is a subjective term. Remember the American Olympic swimmer a few years ago who had chronic and severe asthma? He couldn't take his prescribed medications due to USOC and IOC doping controls. They would consider it "performance enhancing" while others would conclude his asthma medications simply as "field leveling." He won his event despite utilizing less than a quarter of his normal lung capacity. His win justifies the arguement for some that an athlete, if willing to persevere through adversity, can overcome any hardship without the need of drugs.
My understanding of the rationale...Dwayne Barry
Jun 18, 2003 8:38 AM
behind endurance athletes and cyclists in general using systemic injections of corticosteroids is two-fold.

1) They make you feel good. This is often why when you are sick you feel O.K. in the morning and progressively worse as the day proceeds, your body releases a big batch of cortisol (your natural coricosteroid) in the morning typically.

2) The other reason I've read is that corticosteroids may have a glycogen sparing effect by increasing the bodies reliance on protein (catabolism) as a source of energy. Glycogen depletion is probably one of if not the limiting factor in performance of long endurance events like pro-bike racing.
LA tested positive for corticosteroids a few years agoterzo rene
Jun 18, 2003 12:39 PM
due to a saddle sore topical ointment. The tests now are extremely sensitive.

I wouldn't care if everyone in the race was using them. They do make you "feel" good, but the actual performance effects are mostly the other direction.
Not really...Dwayne Barry
Jun 18, 2003 4:41 PM
LA had very low levels consistent with topical corticosteroid use detected (and he had declared its use in his medical book), that's not the same as "testing positive" or failing a drug test. If he had done that he would have been suspended. To fail a drug test you need to inject large amounts.
read LA bookcyclopathic
Jun 18, 2003 1:17 PM
he got busted in tour for the same thing