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Can't decide between Wrenchscience or Competitive Cyclist .(16 posts)

Can't decide between Wrenchscience or Competitive Cyclist .GEORGIADOG
Jun 16, 2003 5:39 PM
Was wondering if someone who has ordered a bike from one of these online retailers. Kinda hesitant anyway about getting a bike online and shipped to me but was hoping to hear something about either one of them.Finally saved enough to purchase my dream bike, the C40 hp and don't want anything to go wrong. Thanks guys for all of your help ahead of time.
re: Can't decide between Wrenchscience or Competitive Cyclist .Mariowannabe
Jun 16, 2003 6:12 PM
In advance, welcome to the league of C40 riders. You'll love it, so long as its fitted properly. Check out this article as a really good starting point. Colnagos aren't that much different from other bikes, but it is a European road racing geometry. Meant to have a long stem. If anything, err on the side of one-size too small frame. The c-t vs. c-c sizing thing is easy to get hung up on. Assuming you've a "normal" ratio of legs to arms and are a competitive cyclist, start with the top tube allowing for a long stem. I'm 5'10 and ride a 56 (54 c-t, 55 tt) with a 12cm stem. Love it (except on long descents, cause I don't like to spend THAT much time in the drops.)

I bought from Colorado Cyclist. Great service.

Definitely check out this paper on fitting the Colnago geometry:
Thanks man for the great info, really helped me out alot!GEORGIADOG
Jun 16, 2003 7:07 PM
re: Can't decide between Wrenchscience or Competitive Cyclist .Franchise
Jun 17, 2003 3:53 AM
I bought my first frameset from Competitive Cyclist this past winter. As for now, I am going to be purchasing my racing frameset in a few weeks. Brendan and his crew are very knowledgeable and helpful. I find the most valuable asset is their knowledge of the lines they carry as well as their knowledge reagarding other bikes, tubing, manufacturers, etc.

Their company is a stand-up company that I put my trust in. What color are you thinking about?
I haven't really decided on a color yet, kinda like the 00F.GEORGIADOG
Jun 17, 2003 4:37 AM
Competitive Cyclistj-son
Jun 16, 2003 7:27 PM
I just bought a frame (two actually) from Competitive Cyclist. Both transactions were very professional and swift.

I initially bought a frame (on sale, no less) that turned out to be a very bad fit, too big. I had already built the frame up and ridden it once before I realized the mistake.

I contacted the owner of Competitive Cyclist and explained the situation. He graciously offered to take back the frame and refund me the entire purchase price, even though the website clearly states a returned frame would be charged a service fee.

He then spent a fair amoutn of time helping me locate a frame that would work for my "disproportionate" body. I was impressed by his knowledge and accomodating manner. I opted to purchase a second, correctly sized, frame from him.

All in all, my experience with Competitive Cyclist was very good, despite my huge mistake (for which I am 100% culpabe.)

Hope this helps.

Good luck
2nd Competitive Cyclistafrican
Jun 16, 2003 7:30 PM
I got a frame from them, no problems.
re: Can't decide between Wrenchscience or Competitive Cyclist .pina
Jun 16, 2003 9:13 PM
I bought a De Rosa (for my wife) from competitive cyclist. They were very knowledgable and very easy to work with. You can't go wrong with them. Don't hesitate to use them.
2799@Competitive vs. 3619@WS, obvious choice?terry b
Jun 17, 2003 5:30 AM
Wrench Science does some weird stuff with their on-line pricing. For some reason they charge you separately for the fork on all Colnagos. Not sure if that is really the price you get charged, but if you build a bike using their interactive program, the C40 starts at 3619 for frame and fork. CC lists the frame/fork price at 2799.
This may not be responsive, but I've bought one Colnago fromdjg
Jun 17, 2003 7:08 AM
maestro-uk (Mike Perry) and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Knowledgeable and reliable guy--unbeatable prices.
This may not be responsive, but I've bought one Colnago fromVW
Jun 17, 2003 8:13 AM
I'm just getting ready to buy a C40 from Maestro. Did you buy a frame or an entire bike? Do you live the USA? if so can you tell me how much did you pay for shipping? Also, did you pay customs and how much?

The reason I'm asking so many questions is Competitive Cycling is selling their frame for $2799 including fork, stem, and seat post. With the current unfavorable US$ exchange rate, the Maestro frame and fork runs about $2500 ... maybe even a little more because of credit card foreign exchange rates maybe lowered still. Adding the cost of oversea shipping, customs, seat post, and stem; it maybe cheaper to buy from Competitive Cycling.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide me!

This may not be responsive, but I've bought one Colnago fromVW
Jun 17, 2003 9:19 AM
I just called Competitive Cycling. $2799 price is just the C40 frame. They are in Arkansas and do not charge sales tax for out-of-state buyers (as least for California buyers) Fork and other things can easily adds another $1000. So Maestro is still a lot cheaper way to go!

well, there you go (nm)djg
Jun 17, 2003 9:26 AM
This may not be responsive, but I've bought one Colnago fromdjg
Jun 17, 2003 9:24 AM
I bought a frame "plus." That is, frame, fork, headset, and bottom bracket, with the bottom bracket and the headset races installed. Shipping, as I recall, was about 75 bucks, but it's possible that the shipping charges have changed. Mike can give you a pretty good estimate of shipping and insurance charges. Duty, obviously, is out of his hands. Sdeals has a pretty good page on the various duties, as I recall. Duty is zero on components, in most cases, and less on frames (around 5%?) than on whole bikes. Go figure. There weren't any credit card fees in my case--that is, Visa gave me a reasonable exchange rate with no extra charges. Sounds like the prices will be fairly close--off the top of my head I cannot tell you which will be better but you should be able to get into the ballpark on the complete charges before you make a decision.
This may not be responsive, but I've bought one Colnago fromVW
Jun 17, 2003 10:36 AM
Thanks, this info is helpful for me to figure out my final cost ... especially since I will definitely be buying from Maestro!

re: Competitive Cyclist - highly recomend.Overhill
Jun 17, 2003 7:06 PM
I bought a Merkx Ti from Comp. Cyclist last winter. They were very professional and knowledgable. My son bought a Colnago in March, and again excellent service in every way. We went to the shop this spring, and it is a real LBS. I would not hesitate to buy from them again, and would even pay a little more for the good service.