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Carbon VS Titanium, input please!(3 posts)

Carbon VS Titanium, input please!velogruven
Jun 15, 2003 7:37 PM
Hi All,

I'm a shop employee in the Sf bay area and I'm looking to pro deal a new frameset. I have an all carbon 1" ouzo pro, so I've been considering just purchasing a frame w/o fork. Basically my choices come down to framesets by kestrel, look, litespeed and merlin - we also deal merckx, pegoretti, cannondale and a few other brands but I'm not terribly interested in expensive aluminum or mixed-material frames.

I've been looking fairly seriously at the look kg-386, a couple of litespeeds - the classic, tuscany and vortex, the merlin extralight, and kestrel's ems300. So far I'm most interested in the litespeed bikes for affordability, but the kestrel and merlin are very very tempting.

Have any of you been in a similar spot? I've ridden the merlin extralight and litespeed classic and didn't notice a huge difference between them - I really liked the ride of the ems300 but I'm wondering about the durability (and resale value) of carbon - ti is good practically forever it seems, no one wants to buy a 5 year old carbon frameset.

thanks!
Scott
hard question!andy02
Jun 16, 2003 5:12 AM
I think litespeed and merlinn are both great bikes but I would go with the merlin due to rep and looks alone. Not really a good choice for buying a bike however. The only other on would be if you can get a older kestral. I really love the older ones even the 5 yo ones I know several people that have them and they still seem to be in great shape. But I don't know about them now they seem to be changing alot! I am not sure if they have a lifetime war. anymore either. If you want a bike forever go with merlin!
Not much reason to pick one over the otherKerry
Jun 16, 2003 4:36 PM
IMO, the main benefit to Ti is that it is pretty much impossible to damage. Drop your chain onto a painted or bare CF frame and you have a chance of gouging it, possibly creating a stress riser. With steel you'll only damage the paint, and with Al you run some risk, though not as great as with CF. The incidence of this is not high, but it can happen. Other than that, it's really about the design of the frame, not the materials used. This includes gimmicks like CF stays, etc.