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Jun 13, 2003 10:02 AM
Lance went down on a descent today! Cycling news says LA thinks it was a "brake failure," and reports he's not seriously hurt.

Up to this point I've been amazed at how rarely he's been involved in accidents!

It didn't effect the outcome of today's stage, but perhaps our man Lance isn't living a charmed life after all!
FYI...a friendly warning...biknben
Jun 13, 2003 10:11 AM
Just so you don't get your head torn off during the TDF. You put the actual spoiler in the body of the post not in the topic line w/ the word "spoiler".

If you do this next month you will be banned for life. Not before you are tarred, feather, linched, hung, castrated, etc.

Actually, I make a habit of listening to the web audio so I don't get spoiled. Others who wait to watch later in the evening we get seriously pissed. Since there is no TV coverage for a couple weeks, we'll let you off with just a warning this time. :-)
Philosophical differences...BergMann
Jun 13, 2003 7:09 PM
My thinking was that since it didn't have an effect on the day's results, it didn't ruin anyone's suspense -- on the contrary, it was actually only bound to _increase_ people's interest in how the stage played out. (Notice I didn't spell out the stage results either...)

Thanks for the friendly warning though, I've noticed that folks around here are _awfully_ ticklish on the subject, and you're right -- pushing the envelope on the spoiler thing is probably only going to provoke flames from the hair-splitters come prime time.
close callDougSloan
Jun 14, 2003 1:47 PM
Yes, it was close. But, technically it did not reveal results, even if it sort of implied something. Still, come TdF time, I'd shy away from even that much info (in the subject line), as maybe some would prefer to learn of even the crash live.

more infoJS Haiku Shop
Jun 13, 2003 10:13 AM
New Dura Ace...hmmmmPsyDoc
Jun 13, 2003 10:42 AM
First, the DA seatpost breaks and now a brake failure. Seems like the relationship between Lance and DA-10 is getting a rocky start.
You're assuming little or no failures on DA-9...Fez
Jun 13, 2003 10:49 AM
Hardly a stastically valid conclusion, and what matters to us is how the actual production pieces will hold up.

The prototype stuff is probably pushing the envelope in a lot of areas and is checked and rechecked constantly - probably after every ride.
That's true, but...PsyDoc
Jun 13, 2003 11:08 AM
...I would like to believe that Shimano should have been able to avoid these types of failures via product testing and development. These failures have appeared to impact LA's confidence.

From the Eurosport site:

"After I came back into the main bunch, I wasn't feeling well, not because my elbow was hurting but because I was very nervous.

"I had lost confidence in my bike and particularly in my brakes."
Jun 13, 2003 12:08 PM
I was kind of surprised that Lance is one of the few guinea pigs for the new stuff. Most of the pro peloton that has Shimano sponsorship is not on it as far as I can tell. I'm sure there are many others besides LA riding and testing the stuff, Lance is obviously the most visible one.

As much as I see the business and marketing end for having Lance on the new DA-10 stuff, I was surprised that he was the chosen one. Maybe they could have just had most of the USPS team riding it.

Lance has always used what works best for him and didn't seem to change just for the sake of change. He still has his choice of bars and stem. It took him forever to dump old pedals and ride the new DA pedals, and he also still rode quill stems up until at least 2000 or maybe even 2001. He was even on a left downtube shifter for a while for mtn stages. From a cycling perspective, I was surprised to see him be one of the firsts to use the new DA-10 group.
A brake failure? Can you post a link? Thanks nmPdxMark
Jun 13, 2003 11:05 AM
A brake failure? Can you post a link? Thanks nmPsyDoc
Jun 13, 2003 11:09 AM
One is:

The Eurosport info is at:
some mechanic is going to payDougSloan
Jun 13, 2003 12:40 PM
"I had lost confidence in my bike and particularly in my brakes."


warning: graphic contenttobinb
Jun 13, 2003 11:29 AM
hope this works,

If i was Mayo i would have attacked, but i have no class.
"If it bleeds...we can kill it" - Arnold (Predator)biknben
Jun 13, 2003 11:46 AM
The peleton gasps at the realization that lance is mere mortal.

Sorry for the size, I feel like "Onespeed". :-)
not one of his more flattering photos, huh? nmDougSloan
Jun 13, 2003 12:39 PM
Is that seatpost straight or tapered? (nm)KeeponTrekkin
Jun 13, 2003 5:54 PM
look like shadows to me -- straight nmDougSloan
Jun 13, 2003 7:58 PM
no class, and no tactical sensemohair_chair
Jun 13, 2003 12:50 PM
The crash was only about 20K into the 192K stage. That early, you'd have to be nuts to think you could stay away from an enraged Lance and the entire USPS team. Not only would they chase you down, Lance would attack you when you were caught and have minutes on you by the finish!
re: Testing wheels???teoteoteo
Jun 13, 2003 12:53 PM
Highly speculative but I know he has been testing some lower profile carbon wheels. Whatever the problem the head USPS wrench Julien Devriese (sp?) will fix it.

As far as the brakes go Shimano has copied our friends in Italy and decided that the front brake should be designed to be stiffer than the rear.