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Chains (are they all equal) ?(7 posts)

Chains (are they all equal) ?Steve Young
Jun 11, 2003 10:22 AM
Hi all,

I wonder if I could pick your collective brains for opinions on chains. I want to replace the Shimano chain on my bike with something that I can remove at will to clean.

A chain that can easily be broken and rejoined with no compromise in strength is an absolute pre-requisite. Thus Shimano is not an option.

I have had good luck with a Sachs PC69 on my mountainbike and I take that off and clean it about once a week at the moment. I'm assuming that this would work equally well on my (Ultegra) equipped roadbike ?

Anyway, here are the options I am considering.

Sachs PC69 at 25USD
Connex 909 (Wipperman) 35USD
Connex (Wipperman) Stainless steel 50USD

I'm currently favouring the Sachs (based on familiarity). However the cost is less of an issue than performance.

Performance =
a) ease of breaking
b) reliability
c) smoothness of shifting

Any advantages of the Wipperman over the Sachs that I should be aware of and any advantage to stainless steel (except rust resistance which I don't need).

Finally (newbie question). I'm surprised at how much crap my chain is accumulating given that I'm only riding it in the dry. I have been lubricating occasionally with Triflow which leaves a slight "wetness" but has always been good for me in the past.

What do you guys use?

TIA

Steve
sorry - just found answer in components discussion.Steve Young
Jun 11, 2003 10:37 AM
Still curious about the prefered lubricant though.

Steve
Just got a PC69mleptuck
Jun 11, 2003 10:37 AM
to replace my 'stock' Shimano 9-speed Ultegra chain a couple of weeks ago. Paid $25 at my LBS.

I also considered the Wippermann SS, but couldn't bring myself to drop over $50 for a chain.

I've had no problems with the SRAM; it's incredibly easy and quick to get on and off, and so far the performance has been nothing less than perfect. Granted, I've only got about 200 miles on it so far, so I might be singing a different song in a couple of months.

Mike
re: Chains (are they all equal) ?No_sprint
Jun 11, 2003 10:42 AM
I currently use Connex 1008 and Record C10. I've used Ultegra, DA, SRAM, and unknown others in the past. Really have never had any issues whatsoever with any chains.

My worst shifting occured with a DA 9 VERY used cassette and new DA chain.
Sachs gets my vote...Fredrico
Jun 11, 2003 10:54 AM
At $25 a pop, it can be changed more frequently without breaking the bank. I've never broken a Sachs (formerly Sedis) chain.

A dry lube, like White Lightning, has to be applied more frequently, every third ride, but doesn't get messy. I never have to remove the chain except to replace it, which is somewhere between 2000 and 3000 miles.
NO.. For the color matching freak........Dave Hickey
Jun 11, 2003 11:24 AM
And yes, I've ordered a red chain for one of my single speeds.

http://www.velimpex.com/wippermann_new.php?pg=wippermann&secpg=wippermann_new
LubeMel Erickson
Jun 11, 2003 11:26 AM
I mix my own. 3-4 parts odorless mineral spirits to 1 part synthetic motor oil. Apply LIBERALLY, let it sit, wipe off excess, go ride. If your chain is pretty dirty do this twice (you can probably skip the first wiping). Do this about once a week, depending on how much you ride and how much abuse your chain gets (rain, mud, etc.). Frequency is really up to you. This formula is pretty much like Prolink but alot cheaper. The mineral spirits cleans and carrys the oil into the rollers then evaporates, leaving the oil to do it's job. In my experience it leaves a pretty clean and smooth running chain. I use it on both my road and mountain bikes with equal success.