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So what crosses your mind when you pass slow riders(65 posts)

So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersPoserFred
Jun 11, 2003 6:39 AM
Do you look down on people who ride cheap bikes and ride 12 miles and hour?
I'm glad they are out riding..... NFM....Dave Hickey
Jun 11, 2003 6:45 AM
of courseDougSloan
Jun 11, 2003 6:45 AM
Got to feel superior somehow. Isn't that the reason we ride?

Doug
Never Never they are out there doing......abicirider
Jun 11, 2003 6:45 AM
what they enjoy why would anyone look down on them, In my book this is just me speaking for myself only doesn't matter if you are hammering 20+ mph or rolling along at 10 mph they are doing something they enjoy and hopefully affects there life in a positive manner.
Again I know a lot of people will disagree with me thats why this is just my thinking.
Be safe out on the roads!!!!!!!!
Ray Still
Mooresville, NC
NoMR_GRUMPY
Jun 11, 2003 6:47 AM
Usually, I'll say... Hi !
It's the ones who pass me, when I'm not riding slow, that bug me.
No...pdg60
Jun 11, 2003 6:49 AM
because right now, I'm one of them slow outta shape riders.

Peace
Don
Oh my God! Someones slower than me!!! :-) (nm)PEDDLEFOOT
Jun 11, 2003 6:49 AM
Oh my God! Someones slower than me!!! :-) (nm)utxjohne
Jun 11, 2003 6:58 AM
EVERYONE is slower than someone. Even Lance gets passed.
I look down on:filtersweep
Jun 11, 2003 6:58 AM
Passing a rider with "DWI bars" (flipped drop bars) who reek of alcohol.

Riders who smoke while on their bike.

Riders who ignore traffic laws (ride against traffic, run lights, etc...).

And sorry, I do rather look down on helmetless guys on clip-on aero-bars pedaling at a cadence of about 30, but that is another story ;)
I chuckle at:Alexx
Jun 11, 2003 8:34 AM
those people cluless about how and when to wear cycling garb. Like the guy on a $4k colnago, wearing sweatpants and Russel sweatshirt, and using sneakers on cheap platform pedals. I mean, WTF? Can't he at least buy a pair of road shoes and pedals???

Yesterday, I came upon an ENORMOUS woman riding her hybrid at about 5mph. While that in itself isn't funny (actally, it's probably a good thing), what was funny was the fact that she was wearing full USPS kit. I couldn't believe that USPS stuff even came that large. I mean, she was over 300 lbs! With the size of her gut and @$$, she must've worn 4xl.

I'm sorry, but there should be a law against wearing team gear when you are the size of a bus.
I chuckle at:The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 8:43 AM
sure, it probably looked odd, but i have nothing but admiration and respect for someone that size who's out there on a bike rather then at home on the couch. especially if they appear to be a fan of the sport (in even the smallest way). it takes guts for someone that size to stuff themselves in some lycra and push 300 lbs down the MUT. the USPS kit just means she's knew to the sport and doesn't know any better. nothing wrong with being a newbie... that's a big part of what fuels the business.
I chuckle at:Steve_0
Jun 11, 2003 8:48 AM
people who think there's a 'right' way to dress for cycling; or a 'proper' pedal for a certain type of bike.

Ok, I probably agree with size limitations on team kit though.
I chuckle at:mobil1
Jun 11, 2003 10:25 AM
Alexx, after reading your ridiculous post, you should be sorry, and btw, I feel sorry for you.
Are you sure she was 300 pounds?Kristin
Jun 11, 2003 11:24 AM
That sounds like an exageration. Some people might accuse me of looking 100 pounds overweight when I'm in lycra, but I'm only 40 pounds overweight. Yes, lycra is not flattering over cellulite and it certainly exploites every unneeded pound. Since my appearance and image are extremely important to me, I like to present myself well. Therefore, I try to find cycling clothes that fit loosely enough to hide some of my flaws. But I'd rather be in something synthetic and breathable than in cotton. Perhaps the USPS team kit is the biggest sized bike clothes she could find.
re: So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersorange_julius
Jun 11, 2003 7:00 AM
I say "Hi!" or "Excuse me!" and pray that they don't swerve
and cross into my line. I ride a cheap bike and go 12 miles
an hour, too!
re: So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersMy Dog Wally
Jun 11, 2003 7:05 AM
There's no single emotion I feel when I pass a slow rider. On the one hand, I'm very happy for them that they're out there doing something healthy and constructive. On the other hand, I'm thankful for my conditioning, skills, and confidence on the bike.
Nothing....I'm the slow rider who's getting passed! (nm)Becky
Jun 11, 2003 7:06 AM
Like slow runners, at least they're off the couch! (nm)STI
Jun 11, 2003 7:20 AM
Sure. Why not?mohair_chair
Jun 11, 2003 7:24 AM
Almost anytime I pass someone, a little thought pops into my mind, "hey, at this moment in time, at this place, I'm better than him/her." It passes very, very quickly, because in truth, I don't care. In the past, when I was starting out, this was slightly more important because it seemed like validation of my emerging skills.

Actually, I'm more apt to look down on people on really expensive bikes riding 12 mph. I'm not sure why--it just seems wrong. If you have an expensive bike and you are out of shape or feeling slow for some reason, ride a cheap bike that day. For my benefit.
cool!Steve_0
Jun 11, 2003 8:04 AM
I passed the t-mobile team Sunday afternoon. AND their bikes were more expensive than mine.

...and to think I thought they were better cyclists than I!
if you passed them...mohair_chair
Jun 11, 2003 8:09 AM
...they obviously aren't very good.

Oh, wait. This is important. Did they know you were racing them? That might make a difference.
no; didnt know that was a rule.Steve_0
Jun 11, 2003 8:15 AM
Of course, after 57 miles of intensity on their part, I may have held my own (for a short while, anyway).
Were they taking a wiz break? nmKristin
Jun 11, 2003 8:21 AM
Dont know; I didnt SEE any canned cheese. nmSteve_0
Jun 11, 2003 8:32 AM
Sure. Why not?The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 8:08 AM
Actually, I'm more apt to look down on people on really expensive bikes riding 12 mph. >>>

note to self: ride recovery rides on beater bike. end message.
You do recovery at 12MPH?Kristin
Jun 11, 2003 8:25 AM
My general finding has been that most people average 15-18MPH on recovery rides. I know cuz I can't keep up with them.
You do recovery at 12MPH?The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 8:35 AM
i'm riding in san francisco on most of my recovery rides so if i'm on a true flat, i'm probably doing 16-18mph with an HR below 143. the thing is, there aren't many "flats" around these parts. plenty of false flats, however. i was mostly using "12mph" as a metaphor for "slow" as that's the topic.
Well, sure, but the tricky thing isdjg
Jun 11, 2003 8:57 AM
hopping from the race bike to the beater in between intervals. I've heard some folks don't even have a beater waiting for the cool down at the end of a ride.
Well, sure, but the tricky thing isThe Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 9:09 AM
ya, i used to have that problem... now i have the SAG wagon carry xtra beater bikes in case one of my beaters flats during cool down. that way i don't lose any time.
I pass someone so rarely I usually ask if they're OK.shamelessgearwhore
Jun 11, 2003 7:31 AM
I probably used to. I can honestly say that I really don't anybill
Jun 11, 2003 7:42 AM
more. Now that I'm racing a little, I get my butt kicked so soundly often enough that who is passing whom on the bike trail is really not an issue. In other words, my abilities get questioned in the very particular circumstances of a race often enough so that it's just not an issue anywhere else.
I'll look at a nice bike anytime. And I make no judgments on who is riding it. What do I know? I'm glad for the people out riding (remember? I'm the guy who said that he LIKES MUT's?)
And, if I can fall in behind the wheel of a bike that happens to be beneath the butt of a member of the fairer sex, I can be very humble in my speed indeed. My thoughts then are my own, thank you very much.
These answers sound politically correctPoserFred
Jun 11, 2003 7:56 AM
Everyone passes riders sometimes on the local trails. Cheap commuters don't go as fast as road bikes.
okay, I'll say it. I definitely used to. Happy now? I justbill
Jun 11, 2003 8:10 AM
don't anymore. I really don't. You want me to get less PC? It's because, other than another racer, I know that I can blow the doors off most anyone I see on an MUT (and Lardbutts -- no blowing the doors off of Lardbutts). But it's not a challenge, so there's no pleasure in it, so I don't even think about it. Also, when I'm on an MUT, I'm usually coming from or going to a workout or a race. So, once again, speed is off the table. It's not an issue.
Hey Bill, I can still proof-read your legs off.djg
Jun 11, 2003 9:01 AM
"an MUT" indeed.
Hey Bill, I can still proof-read your legs off:djg
Jun 11, 2003 9:01 AM
"an MUT" indeed.
not to mention my own (nm)djg
Jun 11, 2003 9:02 AM
I think, "There's another cyclist" and that's about it. nmMel Erickson
Jun 11, 2003 8:05 AM
no, but....The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 8:16 AM
no, i never look down on people riding cheap bikes at 12mph. they're engaging in a completely different mindset then myself (almost a different sport). i do have a beef, however, with folks on MTBs that want to "race" me in the park just because i have a nice bike and look the part. you never know for sure it's you they're after until you get the infamous "look back" about 200 yards ahead. i have to admit that i've been tempted more then a few times to screw the recovery ride (at least for awhile).

on a sidenote: Robin Williams passed me last saturday at the tail end of an 80 mile ride. he was of course riding a VERY nice bike (Seven), but you could tell he was puting down maximum effort and passing lots of folks. i wondered about where his ride took him that day, but was to tired to chase after him to ask. he did say "hello" though. wonder if he thought i was the "slow" guy. he had lost weight since last time i saw him however.
Leave your competitive mindset at the race please!shamelessgearwhore
Jun 11, 2003 8:44 AM
Maybe because I don't have a competitive bone in my body, but theres nothing more annoying than someone on ANY kind of bike who feels they have to really kick it all the time. I mean if you are in a race or out with your buddies its one thing but WTF? The fact that so many posters here seem to actually care what kind of bike someone rides and the speed they ride it shows you are shallow and insecure in yourself. GET A LIFE! Ride YOUR bike and ride WHATEVER bike you choose and by all means ride it at YOUR pace.
I usually think . ..Rich_Racer
Jun 11, 2003 8:51 AM
why are you riding that mtb on the road all the time!!?
Leave your competitive mindset at the race please!The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 9:16 AM
GET A LIFE! Ride YOUR bike and ride WHATEVER bike you choose and by all means ride it at YOUR pace.>>>>

that reminds me of a story one of my ride partners just told me.... he was on a climb and some guy passed him. he decided to "get competitive" so he passed him back. the guy who got passed screamed "ride at your own pace!" and cursed him as he road by. he could still hear the guy screaming at him from well up the road.

my translation: what is it to YOU if they leave it at home or "at the race" or anywhere else. as long as they're not dangerous, how is it negatively affecting you when someone is being competitive? obviously, as you're beyond being competitive, it's not going to bother you if someone else is right? i understand that you're "annoyed", but why? "just because" or is there another reason? i'm not saying i don't understand it, i'm just curious what your reasoning would be.
I look down on them if they're like . . . really, really short.djg
Jun 11, 2003 8:51 AM
And they have to be really, really short for me to look down on them because I'm only just a hair above 5'8" myself.

42, married, little kids, busy job, and far from my once-upon-a-time race shape (which wasn't Nat. Team level to begin with)--I have a hard time sneering at people who go slower than I do. Heck, I go slower than I do. Even when I was relatively fit I don't think I was nuts. Maybe that's a function of my having gotten into racing on a good supportive team, where the best riders helped rather than laughed at the newbies. Maybe I just saved my craziness and insecurities for other domains. There are all sorts of reasons why someone may be going slow at a given moment. Maybe they have to or maybe they choose to. It's all just riding bikes folks. As for cheap bikes, I probably don't give them the bike-perv's eye like I do more primo rides, but that's about it. That cheap bikes still function as bikes is, in my view, a GOOD thing--it gets people riding.
Nope, happy to see them out riding. nmnoveread
Jun 11, 2003 8:51 AM
It's the obnoxious uber-roadies that p!ss me off.Eug
Jun 11, 2003 9:14 AM
Many roadies are great, but there are always those self-absorbed ones out there that give the sport a bad image.

Oh yeah, I'm one of the slow ones, on an entry level road bike, on mountain pedals. I'm definitely not a 12 mph rider, but I'm nowhere near a 25 mph rider either.
Pass others the way I want to be passed myselfs nmContinental
Jun 11, 2003 9:43 AM
I do like the guy that FLEW past me....Bluesref
Jun 11, 2003 9:57 AM
I was going pretty good like 27mph and this guy FLEW past me me. I saw his right leave the drops and give a simple fingertips down wave. Simple and classy.

I prefer to acknowlege those that cycle appropriately.
"I hope I don't look like a poser" (nm)Stampertje
Jun 11, 2003 10:16 AM
LOL. Thank you for that! nmKristin
Jun 11, 2003 11:06 AM
I passed a slower rider last night...TNSquared
Jun 11, 2003 10:27 AM
And one week ago, he passed me at just about the same point in my ride.

Never seen the guy otherwise. All I thought was, "hey, that guy must have started riding out here in Arlington on Tuesday nights - cool."
Hello. nmMike P
Jun 11, 2003 10:28 AM
All you guys are lying.53T
Jun 11, 2003 11:01 AM
Biogically, there are two thoughts that you will not be able to avoid, particularly when you are oxegen deprived and unable to summon up your polished PC thought regime. 1) Rider is a male, I am happy that I am going faster than him and 2) Rider is female, I wounder what it would be like to do her?

I have no idea what those girls that pass me are thinking, probably wondering what I like to eat, or why did I eat so much of it!
ooh boy. roflmao. nmbill
Jun 11, 2003 11:05 AM
All you guys are lying.The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 12:35 PM
1) Rider is a male, I am happy that I am going faster than him and 2) Rider is female, I wounder what it would be like to do her? >>>

: i don't think anyone said they would be "unhappy" that they were going faster then someone else. did i miss something? and as for #2, sorry, but when i'm pushing my ATH, the last thing in the world i'm thinking about is what the lady on the colnago looks like minus her lycra.
Well that explains a lot. (nm)53T
Jun 11, 2003 5:48 PM
Well that explains a lot. (nm)The Human G-Nome
Jun 11, 2003 7:11 PM
go ahead.... how have i enlightened you?
So all but a couple of you guys would not snub meKristin
Jun 11, 2003 11:12 AM
If you passed me on a local trail riding a Specialized Sirrus and I am averaging 12MPH? Or if you saw Bernardo listed in the classifieds? Honestly, having been on this board for 2 years, I have gotten a real taste for how comparative cyclists can be. Cyclists on this board about talk down about hybrid riders or slower riders all the time.
Good, I'll take that as a no.Kristin
Jun 11, 2003 12:41 PM
This is a good thing because I know that if someone snubs me and I punch them out, it won't be someone from this board. -Au Revoir
What crosses my mind? Franch or Anglash?Charlie Amerique
Jun 11, 2003 11:32 AM
Mostly, do I say Bonjour or Hello??

Do I care what bike someone is riding? Only my own.
Only people I pass are others who have stopped! (nm)Jeff Rage
Jun 11, 2003 1:45 PM
re: So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersjujigatami
Jun 11, 2003 1:47 PM
Do you look down on people who ride cheap bikes and ride 12 miles and hour?

No, but I do look down on people who ride really expensive bikes ONLY at about 12mph. I mean what is the point of having a 12 pound bike when you only ride slow casual rides. I'm not talking about recovery rides or injured people or even old guys (there are plenty of >60 year olds in my club that kick my @ss).

I know of several guys like this in my club, and I just don't get it. Their bikes cost more than their cars and they Never and I mean NEVER do any rides other than slow flat C- rides or casual flat D rides.

I just don't get it. I mean how does having a 5200 help you on a flat smooth 12mph ride?
re: So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersEngerSal
Jun 11, 2003 2:34 PM
Why should you care what that guy is riding? I mean, its not like if he had spent $1200 instead of $2700 on his rig he would have given the extra money to you. As a younger man, I used to have a lot of time to ride, a great fitness level, some adequate racing skills but not too much coin for a real sweet ride. Now I am older, and have a lot less time to ride, and a lot less fitness and power -- but, I have a real job with a real bank account. So, I have a nice bike (perhaps an average bike for the readers of this board). But, if I get out a few times a week, enjoy what I have, and enjoy my ride -- why should it bother you how much I spent or haw fast I am?
re: So what crosses your mind when you pass slow ridersjujigatami
Jun 11, 2003 4:50 PM
Sorry, but I just don't get it. Enjoy your ride, thats great, but why spend all the money on Dura Ace and carbon when you almost never go up a hill or even get any advantage from the weight reduction? I just think its silly. If you don't get out much, thats fine too, but then why get a super race bike? Do you really like it that much better. For that kind of riding wouldn't a lower end bike do JUST as well? Would you even notice a difference?

The fact is that at 12mph or less on smooth flat roads it doesn't make a damn bit of difference what the bike is made of or if it weighs 22 or 12 pounds.

Look, I'm all for getting the best bike you can afford, but the best for your purposes isn't neccessarily the most expensive.

I just don't get it, and I guess I never will. I have a real job and a real bank account, I could have bought a much more expensive bike than I did (maybe not if I want to saty married, but that is a different story). I didn't because I bought the bike that was the best bang for the buck for my purposes... And I'm a big guy, and I will never race, so saving grams is worthless to me. And I ride hills and do good distances (and I'm not fast, I just did a metric century at 17mph ave. ... I was dropped by the fast group after the 2nd mile).

I just don't understand spending the money for features you will never use.
Be careful who you look down on.............roadmeister
Jun 11, 2003 5:59 PM
didn't we ALL (or most of us) initially start off years ago at 12mph????????????
Loooooser! I even make the L sign on my forehead!!PseuZQ
Jun 11, 2003 8:12 PM
Because at that point in time, they can't even keep up with one of most lowly beasts on the cycling food chain:

A fat chick on a carbon bike.

I imagine how utterly humiliated that person must feel, as they watch my lyrca-clad thunder-thighs mooove on by. And how angry they must be that I own a bike that I *clearly* don't deserve. And I think, here is a person whose parents obviously didn't love them, and whose pets plot to kill them, and whose co-workers probably spit in their coffee when they're not looking.

I pity that slow person on the cheap bike. I really and truly do.

Not.
Me ego is burst on most rides...coonass
Jun 12, 2003 5:35 AM
No matter how fast I'm going; I look at my speed and think of the Cat 5's and Pro riders that can crank it out at twice the speed that I'm achieving with a good tail wind. If I get dropped while doing 18-20mph; just think what he/she feels when they get dropped doing >23mph?? (I acknowledge that there are better, stronger and younger bikers than me on the road, but they must really suffer being dropped.)
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