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What to take along?(25 posts)

What to take along?Mel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 7:32 AM
I'll be doing an unsupported 130 mile ride from Hilo to Kona on the Big Island at the end of July. Here's my initial list of stuff to take along. Topeak Alien, 2 tubes, 1 folding tire, 3 CO2 carts w/inflator, frame pump, patch kit, cash and credit card, cell phone, identification, 50oz Cambebak for water, 2-20oz bottles for energy drink, food. What else should I bring (or leave home)? How many calories of food should I bring along (5,000 ft. of climbing)? Anything else?
Me???.......:-) nmDave Hickey
Jun 10, 2003 7:36 AM
Yeah, me too. :) (nm)kjr39
Jun 10, 2003 7:42 AM
Can you fit in a case...Mel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 7:43 AM
32" x 24" x 6" with my bike and clothes and still weigh less than 50#'s and survive for 14 hours (one way) with no food or water getting tossed around by baggage handlers and stuffed in the hold of a 757? If so, meet me in Chicago on July 26. BTW, you'll have to fend for yourself when we get there.
btw, you can't fly with co2. nmJS Haiku Shop
Jun 10, 2003 8:04 AM
You go first, Dave... (nm)kjr39
Jun 10, 2003 8:06 AM
re: What to take along?JS Haiku Shop
Jun 10, 2003 7:42 AM
another tube, sunscreen, a cable, a dozen zip ties, some duct tape wrapped around your inflator or co2 cart, and a spare cleat.

if you've never done 130 miles before, consider a petroleum-gel based product, like a small tube of vaseline or similar, to carry in your seatpack. can be had in the travel section of the personal care area at walmart/kmart/target. countless uses.

food--how long will it take you to ride 130 miles? 5k climbing is not alot over that distance, unless it's all together within a few miles. figure 300 calories per hour, times however many hours you'll be riding, plus another hour. are there stores along the way?

how much i carry is directly related to how much i want to use my cell phone.
Why zip ties?Mariowannabe
Jun 10, 2003 8:17 AM
For the life of me, I can't see what I'd do with zip ties. If my speedometer cable zip tie goes its not going to ruin my day. Clue me in.... Thanks,
for all the reasons you can't think of right now nmJS Haiku Shop
Jun 11, 2003 5:21 AM
as long as your in kmart picking up the vasy...Steve_0
Jun 10, 2003 8:23 AM
go to housewares; they have ducttape which is not rolled (i.e., flat). Beats wrapping around the pump.
re: What to take along?andy02
Jun 10, 2003 8:00 AM
chart a plane we will all go! that way we could take the whole shop with us.
Aw, MAN, that's a nice ride....retro
Jun 10, 2003 8:08 AM
Actually I haven't ridden it, but I've driven it a few times. Really pretty, especially if you're from a part of the world that measures rain in millimeters instead of feet.
Haiku Shop's recommendations sound good to me. An extra tube never hurts (of course you won't need it, but what if you do?). I've never needed a zip tie on the road, but I do carry a couple, and they weigh nothing, so why not? Temperatures may surprise you, depending on what you're used to--it won't be COLD, but it can be breezy and briskish. There are places to stop for food and water along the way, though I can't remember any specific ones. As I recall (it's been a few years, and I was thinking car instead of bike at the time), there are a couple of significant climbs, and the shoulders leave a lot to be desired in spots. I'd suggest bright colors instead of oh-so-fashionable black.
One final thing: If you're not an accomplished distance rider, 130 miles is a LONG way. The first 50 or 75 go by pretty well, and then you start to slog. Ride at a pace you can hold, and eat and drink plenty.
Yeah, I've driven it twice tooMel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 9:16 AM
My son lives south of Hilo and we've visited the last two years. This time he's getting married on the Kona side. We're staying 4 days in Paradise Park southeast of Kea'au and 8 days near Kona. I'll be riding over the Wednesday before the wedding. Family and friends will also be driving over so they can check on me as they go by. I'll be taking a jacket and the max elevation is only 4,000 ft. (in Volcanoes National Park). The first 20 miles is all uphill from Kea'au to Volcano so I should stay pretty toasty and being from Wisconsin I'm no stranger to COLD weather. Should be there around 8:30am so the temp could be coolish for the descent. Arm and leg warmers are not a bad idea, even if I don't need them they take up little space. There's a number of towns but the stretch from Naalehu (near South Point) to Kealia (on the west side) is 40 miles with very little development. I'm no road newbie and will have several centuries before this ride (one this weekend) but all have been supported. I'm almost looking forward to the ride as much as the wedding! Is that sick?
You will definitely wantmsmootsiemartin
Jun 10, 2003 8:13 AM
a rain jacket if you are starting in Hilo (rainy side of the island, unpredictable)and probably something warm for the top (the elevation is pretty high, I think?) as well as the descent. If it were me, I would have at the minimum a water resistant jacket, arm and knee warmers, and possibly glove liners and toe covers.

Good luck!
See post aboveMel Erickson
Jun 9, 2003 1:51 PM
The elevation isn't too high and warmers are a good idea. I think gloves and toe covers would be overkill. Hilo is rainy (200+ inches a year) but it tends to come in downpours with periods of sun in between. Not to say they don't have significant periods of rain but July isn't the rainy season. I'll just have to be prepared! At least it's warm rain.
Sorry, for some reason,msmootsiemartin
Jun 10, 2003 1:47 PM
I had it in my head that you were riding the saddle road over to Kona. But, you are right, gloves and toe covers are overkill for your route! A light weight jacket will probably be plenty.

Have fun!
For the saddle roadMel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 3:43 PM
I'd probably want my mountain bike. I hear the western part is pretty rough. Only been as far as the turn off to Mauna Kea and that wasn't that bad. My son took it once and said it was not good.
digital camera and post come pictures afterwardstarwheel
Jun 10, 2003 9:13 AM
If you're going by the JS Haiku plan, don't forget a box of fig newtons.

Since you're carrying a frame pump, I would omit the CO2 and cartridges and make room for more food. I always carry a spare superlink (connex), a schrader/presta adapter just in case (weighs next to nothing), a spare seat tube binder bolt (because my seatpost sometimes slips and I have a knack for breaking the bolts). Some rain gear might be appropriate, although you might get just as wet from sweating.
Camera yes, digital, maybeMel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 9:30 AM
Remember, I'm paying for half the wedding plus the trip! Don't know if I can swing a new camera but maybe I can borrow one. Otherwise it'll be my trusty compact 35mm and my scanner, but pictures will be forthcoming. I like the ease and quickness of CO2 and should have plenty of room. The pump is backup. Superlink is a must, forgot to put it on my list. The adapter would be for gas station pumps? All my pumps are presta. Don't need the seat tube binder bolt, I ride a Softride beam. Rain gear, check.
You are not sick for looking forward to the ride,boyd2
Jun 10, 2003 11:13 AM
but do not, under any circumstance, tell any female (especially his mother) how excited you are. It is best to keep the excitement to yourself! I run into that problem all the time.
Too lateMel Erickson
Jun 10, 2003 11:26 AM
She already realizes I talk about and plan for the ride more than the wedding, at least that's what she thinks. Besides, we're the parents of the groom and have less planning to do. I also made the travel arrangments for her sister and two children (and put their tickets on our MasterCard), plus our family and am expected to be the main tour guide on the Big Island. I've got major points built up, but I'll have them all spent by the time we get back.
LOVE the Big Island!theBreeze
Jun 10, 2003 12:02 PM
We've taken 4 trips there and can't wait for the next. Unfortunatly I've always been sans bike. Have to work on that for next time.

Having driven the route I reacall there should be several stopping places for H2O etc. Of course it never seems like you're far from anywhere in a car.

I was going to suggest the rain gear, but that seems to have been covered. Ditto duct tape and zip ties. A multitude of uses in any situation. (You can tie off a puncture in a tube with zip ties if unable to patch. Boot a tire with duct tape.) If your tires are in very good shape I don't see the point of carry a spare tire.

Calories are more a function of time spent rather than distance. Start with what you would eat for a hilly century and exptrapolate from there.

Looking forward to the ride report. Best wishes to your son and future daughter-in-law!
couple of fat-azz blizzunks, Dog!Spoiler
Jun 10, 2003 7:45 PM
Yo! Spart-up an' pass dat sh!t.
How about a pocket knifeboyd2
Jun 11, 2003 4:42 AM
I don't go anywhere without one.
Jun 11, 2003 10:34 AM