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Critique this build and find the "holes" please! (xpost)(16 posts)

Critique this build and find the "holes" please! (xpost)Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 10:12 AM
I'm a 5'10, 210 lbs MTB racer, big guy, sprinter you betcha, don't much like hills. A bit fat, yes, but with an 18" neck, pretty much characterized as "stocky".

I'll be racing crits on this bike, and using it for up to 120 miles in a shot, with the average ride being 50 miles. No road races.

This is my first roadie bike, so I'm excited, but also want to know if what I'm getting is worthy or not.

For what it's worth, having high end stuff is very important to me, but that high end stuff has to be durable as well. On the MTB I run 2003 XTR on a custom steel hardtail and Fox fork for example.

Campy is not an option for me. Too "clunky".

Here's the build:

2003 Litespeed Sirius (Schroeder Iron bike) w/ fork
ITM Millenium stem 31.8
Easton EC90 bar
Easton EC70 post
SLR saddle
Dura Ace Shifters/levers, cranks, rear derailleur, chain
Ultegra brakes, cassette, BB, front derailleur
Ultegra/Open Pro wheels
Conti GP3000 tires
Eggbeater Twin Ti pedals

Thanks in advance for feedback!
Sensiblefiltersweep
Jun 5, 2003 10:19 AM
Looks like you did your homework- you have optimized bang for the buck with the DA/Ultegra mix. I don't know about the egg beaters though... hopefully you won't need to be shedding much mud on the road. Looks like a fun ride.
re: Critique this build and find the "holes" please! (xpost)cipolini2b
Jun 5, 2003 11:17 AM
How do you know campy is "clunky" if you've never ridden campy? cmon guy...

It is a nice bike though, should suit you fine. I see them at the races all the time. Open Pro's are bombproof. Get 36 hole hubs for even more strength/stiffness. Beautiful.
I have ridden it....Carbon Record 10 to be exact.Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 11:27 AM
And it WAS clunky. I work part time at a shop, so I've ridden a lot of road bikes.

The test ride on the record was about 120 miles over the course of a weekend.
Campy needs to break in.jtlmd
Jun 5, 2003 8:29 PM
Try riding some Campy that's been ridden a thousand miles. They become smooth and reliable. Given your size you run a risk of breaking some components. With Campy the components can be repaired because the small parts are available (At least that's what my bike shop mechanic tells me). With Shimano its all disposable.
Hey, back to the other side of the fence ;-)js5280
Jun 5, 2003 11:45 AM
Hey Zonic,

Just kidding, sounds like a nice bike you've got spec'd. My only suggestion is doublethink the Eggbeaters. I think many one-sided pedals have much better clearance than the Eggbeaters. If you're racing crits, you have to worry about clipping a pedal on the cement pedaling through turns. So I'm told, I'm not a crit guy. I do use Eggbeaters on my roadie though because they are super easy to get into which I like when I'm out in traffic. Also I use them on my MTB so I don't have to have separate shoes. Good luck with your road racing!
Yeah, checked that out....Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 12:05 PM
Eggs have a 31 degree angle of clearance, like Shimano SPD-SL, Times, and Looks. Speedplays have 33 degrees of clearance, more so.

I'll be running 170s too, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Nice...and a couple of thoughtsGregory Taylor
Jun 5, 2003 12:29 PM
I'll echo the crowd about the Egg-beaters. Good pedals, but what is it that you are going after that the EggBeaters have? What shoes are you running? I LOVE the Speedplay X-2's - dual sided entry, float out the wazoo, and easily servicable.

You don't mention the build on the wheels -- I have the same combo (Ultegra hubs/Open Pro) and, yes, they are perfect for a big, powerful guy. I'm 190 lbs., and I built mine up with 32 hole rims, and 14/15 double butted spokes, three-cross pattern. The butted spokes build a nice, strong, long-lived wheel.

What cassettes are you running? It's pretty flat here (Northern Va.), so I'm running a 12-21 with a 53/42 combo up front. Nice small jumps between gears. Pop on a 12-25 out back and you have plenty of gear for most hills.

Although I have no data to back this up, I'd be ooked out by the Easton carbon fibre bar. I know that it is strong and will probably last longer than an aluminum bar, but I'm just not ready to go there. Give me an ITM 260 -- nice, strong, and aluminum.
Oh, one more thought....Gregory Taylor
Jun 5, 2003 1:09 PM
If you are going to race this bike, especially in crits, be prepared to say good bye to all or parts of it. There is ALWAYS the possiblity of a wreck. Will you cry if you grind your Dura-ace levers or Easton bar in a pile up? "If you can't afford to replace it, you can't afford to race it." That's why the Ultegra stuff is perfect for the club racer - strong, servicable, and relatively cheap.
Good points, thanks for your help! (nm)Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 1:21 PM
re: Critique this build and find the "holes" please! (xpost)jrm
Jun 5, 2003 1:01 PM
Personally, i'd go with a high quality steel or aluminum at your size. Also Ultegra would work great. Make sure your running a 32H OP. Also the michelin axial carbon is a better tire.
Hey John....Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 1:20 PM
That is a "high quality" steel frame.

Litespeed doesn't always mean ti!
Doh....jrm
Jun 5, 2003 3:22 PM
Learn something new everyday. what tubing do they use.
From the website....Zonic Man
Jun 5, 2003 4:09 PM
Lightweight ALite AN-6 aluminum using proprietary heat treatment
Stiff, compact frame geometry
LiteTEC titanium-enhanced carbon seat stays
Durable triple-butted ALite aluminum tubing
Uh... Picture says aluminum, not steel. (nm)jtlmd
Jun 5, 2003 8:37 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant, sorry. (nm)Zonic Man
Jun 6, 2003 8:32 AM