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FAT FOOT: recovery time for sprained ankle?(16 posts)

FAT FOOT: recovery time for sprained ankle?rockbender
Jun 4, 2003 9:50 AM
It figures as soon as the weather turns nice that I would go and do something silly like roll my ankle - swelled up like a grapefruit. Cursed mountain bikes!

I'm going on the third day now. The day after it happened I could barely walk - now I just kind of gimp along.

Anybody else recently go through this or have an idea of what recovery time is going to be? I doubt riding will be an option for me this weekend. : (
re: FAT FOOT: recovery time for sprained ankle?jtolleson
Jun 4, 2003 10:02 AM
Faster than you'd expect, since cycling is a nice stable platform. Are you icing it? Lots and lots and lots? Even a slush bucket treatment in front of the TV.

You may be able to ride this weekend but would want to avoid heavy gears or out-of-the-saddle work. Spin spin spin
Have you ever tried DMSO??coonass
Jun 4, 2003 10:10 AM
Athletes have been using this stuff for years; really helps..you can get it from the Health Food Stores and I'd recommend the 'roll-on' version (less waste). The only issues I know of is: 1) your skin has to be clean...no dirt, alcohol, Ben-gay, etc. 2) if you use if for more than 3 days in a row, your body will permeate a 'garlic' odor...I generally use it for 2 days, skip a day, etc.
http://www.dmso.org/
it has killed people!andy02
Jun 4, 2003 10:32 AM
Do you remember 5-10 years ago when the hospital was shut down because people who cared for a pateint got sick and one of them died. It was because she had use dmso on her arms and had to go to the hospital when she needed an iv the cleaned the area with batadine(sp?) and it reacted with the dmso causing some people to fall ill. So make sure you get it off.....I would look at pubmed and see if any real study at shown that it works.
15-20 years ago it was illegal for human useTNSquared
Jun 4, 2003 10:58 AM
OK, it's been a long time and I'd like to think that the variety that is available at health food stores is greatly diluted, but it used to be approved only for use on large herd animals and was known as "horse medicine." The only way to get it was to buy it under the table from a vet.

I foolishly did this as a teenager to reduce swelling in an inflamed achilles tendon for state track meets. It worked wonderfully.

However, it is basically a solvent. It absorbs through the skin almost instantly and takes anything else on your skin with it. That is why it is extremely important to clean the area of application well and use sterile equipment to apply it. I would also caution against using it for more than a few days.

More than anything, though, I'd ask a qualified doctor before using it.
I thought it had animal connections... just had to place it!rockbender
Jun 4, 2003 11:06 AM
I kept on thinking 'agent orange' when I thought of DMSO, but knew that wasn't quite right. The vet/animal thing rings a bell though.

Perhaps I will ask ninelittlepiggies below... he works in a hospital, plus, how can you not trust a guy with nine toes?
You guys are correct....as I understand it,coonass
Jun 4, 2003 2:28 PM
it is used by Vetenarians to treat animal sprains; specifically horses...The reason it was 'illegal', is because it wasn't accepted by the AMA for human applications, even though coaches all over the US used it to treat their athletes to hasten their recovery. I started using it back in the 1960's when I read an article [Runner's World] on Alberto(sp?) Salazar (big time Marathon runner); he was training in Colorado for an upcoming event when he sprained his ankle so bad that they had to cut his shoes off....his coach treated his ankle w/DMSO and he did win the Marathon...Your doctor is definitely not going to approve it's use, since it's not manufactured by any large Pharmaceutical conglomerates (he needs someone with deep pockets for you to sue in case your heart stops, or you decide to commit suicide, etc.:)...you've got to love those commercials with the soft, sweet warnings of after-effects....his recommendation will be "RICE' and Aspirin, and call me if you notice any changes"...One thing I forgot to mention, if you apply too much, it will itch like crazy but all you have to do is run cold tap water on it to remove the excess...then you're back in business...
Alberto who?TNSquared
Jun 4, 2003 7:00 PM
Big time marathoner is almost an understatement - he won New York in his debut. Salazar was my idol when I was a high school and college x-country runner. In fact, that Runner's World article is where I heard about DMSO, and why I decided to try it.
4 to 6 weeksAlexx
Jun 4, 2003 10:33 AM
I sprained mine nearly a month ago, and just started riding again 4 days ago. I have an ankle brace, too, so I'm stuck wearing my old shoes-the new ones won't spread open that wide!
Figure 2 months until you'll be back to normal.
lots of ice today... dmso tonite?rockbender
Jun 4, 2003 10:50 AM
Thanks for the encouragement. I have been icing it quite a bit, and have the luxury of putting my foot up on my desk with ice on it.

I will check into the DMSO - thanks for the informative link.
doesn't reduce swellingandy02
Jun 4, 2003 11:18 AM
see links --these papers are from pubmed a NIH based search engine. this is real science no bs..i want to sell you something so i won't test it so i can say anything and no will no if i am right or wrong....sorry i get on a tangent

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3042236&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6456396&dopt=Abstract
Snake oil or proven??coonass
Jun 5, 2003 5:41 AM
The referenced pubmed articles referred to 'fractures', of which I can personally attest. In 1984,I fractured my left forearm (about3.5" from the elbow) thanks to a bike ride & 2 farm dogs and thought I had just had a bad sprain in the elbow...I applied DMSO periodically and the swelling subsided; after a few weeks, I still couldn't hold some items without a sharp pain in that area, so I decided to go and get it x-rayed. The doc said that it was fractured 50% through the bone and there was no need to cast it now; just be careful...it healed perfect, as far as I can tell. I'm not trying to convince you that it's a miracle product, but I can personally attest that it does work, and over the years, I have known Runners that have used it with success..(my friend's Coach used to crush aspirin, apply it to the area, and then apply the DMSO...I'd be skeptical, but that was the Coach's normal treatment).....I certainly agree with you on snake-oil cures, and as with any product you place IN your body (re: woman who died due to DMSO IV....I assume this was administered by a physician) misapplication of DMSO, Aspirin and especially acetaminophen,can be disaterous: http://www.metor.com/[9390-0546-5D49]/se/search?k=acetaminophen+warnings&sf=all&s=0&s=1&s=2&s=3&s=4&s=5&t=5
You are wise to be cautious.
Bad newsTooManyToys
Jun 4, 2003 11:19 AM
It really depends on how bad you sprained it. I've had them heal in only a couple weeks when I was younger. However the one I have now is going on 10 weeks. And worse yet, I've been going to physical therapy for the last 5 weeks. The good news is that I was able to ride on the road (with the tension on my left pedal completly loosened) again after only about 2 weeks. My advice is that if you are concerned, go see your doc. Other than that, ice and some simple stretching excercises should help.
The doc?rockbender
Jun 4, 2003 11:33 AM
wow, you're going to PT? Sorry about that - you must have done a number on yours!

I don't know about going to the doc... he will say "yep, its swollen and sprained. Stay off it for a month or two. That will be $200."

Guess I'll spend the $200 on good beer and rentals of old TDF footage. I have actually thought about taking off the 'injured side' crank of the fixie and mounting a foot peg to go do some one legged circles around the neighborhood... sounds like yet another dumb idea begging injury!

At least my garage will be clean and bikes tuned in the next couple weeks.
Loosen your cleatsshamelessgearwhore
Jun 4, 2003 1:15 PM
After I broke my ankle I had very little strength in my foot, and calf. If its your dominant foot switch feat when you disengage for a while and loosen the cleats til they are ridiculously easy to get out of for a while.
re: FAT FOOT: recovery time for sprained ankle?Rushfan
Jun 5, 2003 10:46 PM
RICE it. Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate. I've sprained ankles several times playing soccer, even broken it without realizing I had, and the time to heal has varied dramatically-depends on how much you hurt it, how quickly you heal, and how well you treat it.

One thing to work on, once the swelling has gone down, is to get back your flexibility. A good ankle stretcher is to stand on your good leg, lift your other foot an inch or so off the group, and draw the letters of the alphabet with your toe.