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EBAY USERS .....This is a MUST read!(10 posts)

EBAY USERS .....This is a MUST read!CARBON110
Jun 3, 2003 8:11 AM
Over the past few days I have come close to being a victim of net fraud. I put a Rolex watch up on ebay and it sold for $1850. When the auction ended someone from England bought it. However, someone else took over their email account and sent an alterior address for me to send the watch to after several emails from the ""buyer"". Then they TOOK $2000 out of the buyers paypal account without her permission and sent it to my account. The original buyer called on the phone and said "why did you take $2000 out of my account and how did you do that?" We figured out what happened but I had already sent the watch. I called FEDX and recalled the package. When I called the authorities they said they couldnt do anything and when I called paypal they didnt care at all. They said its the users responsibility. I'm going to cancel my account with them regardlesse but this is the first time I have come really close to getting ripped off. Thought I would pass along the experience
re: EBAY USERS .....This is a MUST read!noveread
Jun 3, 2003 8:41 AM
Wow, how in the heck did Paypal allow that to happen? What exactly happened with the paypal account? Do you know?

Buyer's remorse??filtersweep
Jun 3, 2003 8:57 AM
so you were able to recall the package? Did you ever complete the transaction? Did you return the money?

This seems a bit fishy. If it is that easy to "take the money," why didn't they just take the money rather than buying the watch which they never ended up receiving? Are you sure this isn't an elaborate scheme of BUYER'S REMORSE ???
Hijacking ebay accounts is common ......Spirito
Jun 3, 2003 10:12 AM
if somone can hack into your computer they can hack your ebay password. if you use the same password for your paypal account and email pop-server then they can easily create false auction listings diverting your emails to confirm a trade and then either divert money from paypal to another paypal account or ask for a postal money order or a bank check. as the buyer receives the goods after the payment is made and allowing for a few days shipping a sharp thief can be long gone - its easy to open and close bank accounts especially outside of the US.

golden rule: use different passwords and mix them up with upper and lower case as well as numerals. also, if buying anything high end on ebay insist on a phone conversation with the buyer or seller (hint: check their name and address with to see if all matches). also check their other auctions listed and email anone who has recently traded with them to see if all went well and if their particulars match.

anyone who uses ebay often should check in with the ebay "trust and safety" discussions board to keep abreast of new scams.
i was lucky in avoiding a $3.5K loss from a scammer who hijacked an account and corresponding email address. the auctions amounted to over $60K and i eventually notified ebay of my suspicions and ebay suspended the account.

the account feedback and history had some 100 transactions - all positive. from a conversation with the "real" owner of the account he mentioned that police are investigating somebody he works with. the "hijacker" had diverted emails and changed the address and tel # registered with ebay. if you are connected to a local network and use ebay or send payments be cautious. log out, change your passwords often and use your discretion before it costs you.

ebay wont tell its users just how out of hand things are getting - luckily used bike parts and old frames are not a target area for new scammers.

oh ... and get a Mac :-)

Hijacking ebay accounts is common ......brider
Jun 3, 2003 10:27 AM
BTW -- that's
Good advice on mutlipe passwordsTig
Jun 3, 2003 10:31 AM
I'm happy to report that I use different passwords for eBay, Paypal, and the pop email server. I'd advise other to do the same.

Also download Spybot from's download page and Immunize your system. Be sure to search for new Spybot updates regularly, as well as running immunizations every few weeks.
"mutlipe"? LOL -nmTig
Jun 3, 2003 10:32 AM
mutelip: the latest in password protection...bicyclerepairman
Jun 3, 2003 11:35 AM
Instead of typing in your password (which anyone looking over your shoulder can see) you 'lipsynch' the password while looking at your digicam. Remember, Big Brother is watching.
ebay doesnt give a crapseeker333
Jun 3, 2003 7:51 PM
i just spent 20 mins trying to report a potential fraud on a bike, talked to their new "live help" (what a FWOT). they don't even deal with it, just refer you to another link.

i hope ebay gets sued or prosecuted by the CA or US govt soon. maybe they're not the putting up the ads, but they do next to nothing to review them and respond to reports.

here's a sweet deal: Brand new $6500 bike for $1900. According to the feedback history (only last two transaction details accessible), this guy was selling used books for $7 prior to moving into 2003 model litespeeds. Hey but the shipping is only $3.00!!
I think Spirito covered mosdt of the questionsCARBON110
Jun 4, 2003 7:54 AM
However it still shocked me