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Classifieds Fraud?(6 posts)

Classifieds Fraud?rit-atl
Jun 2, 2003 6:11 AM
Was just cruising the Classifieds page and came across a couple of shady postings. It seems a guy named Daniel Cosma has at least 5 different entries that list bikes in "all" or "various" sizes with descriptions that are copied and pasted straight off of the manufacturer's website.

Does this happen often? Is the Classifieds page becoming like Ebay where the majority of items are seriously sketchy?

I'm new to the site, and was curious if there was a history here.
This site is generally pretty good.elviento
Jun 2, 2003 6:53 AM
Better than Ebay.

This particular seller, though, does seem suspicious, selling large stock at below wholesale.
Agreedjtolleson
Jun 2, 2003 6:59 AM
Having bought and sold through the classifieds here, I've been impressed with the integrity associated with real cyclists selling to real cyclists.

But it isn't fool proof. There is a link to alert admin of suspicious advertising. Some shops have unloaded bikes through rbr classifieds, as have a couple of teams (that's how a friend of mine got his CT1). The best indicator may be whether they seem knowledgable and credible in response to email questions.
agreeCARBON110
Jun 2, 2003 8:11 AM
I emailed him awhile ago aafter my accident since he was selling a 5900 for $2400. So I emailed him asking if he was sure it was a 5900 and new? Never heard from him after 3 emails. When he first started posting about 2 months ago he said he was a VA bike shop and he had 3 Trek TT bikes and 4 Trek 5900. However, he said the 5900 was amde of 120 OCLV in his posts and being a bike shop with that kinda inventory you qould know the difference. Also that kinda inventory is reserved for BIG successful shops...since those 7 bikes alone are like $20K retail worth of Bikes.
agreeDamn
Jun 2, 2003 8:28 AM
I emailed him yesterday and have yet to hear from him. If he ever does contact me I'll let this board know. I'm planning on having him take the bike in question to a local bike shop to be inspected and shipped to me. If he agrees to that, I'll send him the money once the bike is in the hands of the bike shop. I think his prices are to good to be true also. I already search his name for a phone number or address and it came back with nothing. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
Possible Best case and Worst case scenariosFez
Jun 2, 2003 10:30 AM
Best case would be someone affiliated w/ a bike shop abusing a pro deal or a wholesale purchase situation. If this person is a shop employee, he couldn't sell it under the guise of a shop, since some of those brands prohibit internet and mail order sales.

Worst case is this guy is a scammer.

Obviously the guy doesn't stock the bikes. He has no real pictures and lists the specs for all the sizes.