|Jeff Galoway's take on easy days||stan_b|
May 29, 2003 12:41 PM
|When I used to run, I read his book on running and it seemed to make a lot of sense. He believed that more harm was done by running slowly doing "junk" miles on easy days. He said it was better to completely rest.
I have applied this principle to my cycling and I think it has helped me. I have 2 hard days per week and either take all the other days off or have a third ride at a moderate exertion level.
This kind of relates to the post below about overtraining. Does any one else believe in complete days off for their easy days?
|I believe Galloway method is useful for beginners, but not for people with||TNSquared|
May 29, 2003 1:00 PM
|any aspirations to improve performance, much less maximize your abilities.
Go back and read Galloway's first book, when he was a national caliber runner.
Can you say 200 mile weeks and 13x1 mile repeats? Can't do that with days off.
Don't get me wrong, I think Galloway has done alot to bring many new people into running, and the program works for people simply seeking a certain level of fitness, but you will not progress much after the first few months without a more aggressive training schedule.
You can go way beyond Galloway's current program without overtraining.
May 29, 2003 1:05 PM
|Isnt comparing run training and cycle training a bit like apples and oranges? Running is much more of an impact shock to the joints, bones, muscles of one's body. Common sense would say that one could do more training on a bicycle, however, rest is very important.|
|Not my comparison....||TNSquared|
May 29, 2003 2:03 PM
|I didn't make the comparison, I just continued it. Since the original poster asked about the Galloway approach, which is based on running, it made more sense to respond in terms of running. Plus, I know a whole lot more about running, so it gives me a certain comfort level to stay in that realm. :)
I agree entirely that because of the pounding that you mention, rest is even more important in running, but in either sport, you can't move forward and improve if you take complete rest days often.
Easy days, at least in my running experience, are often alot better than a day off. The activity increases blood flow to the muscles, which speeds refueling and recovery, and you get some aerobic benefit, and I feel that your mental toughness improves.
But that's still comparing apples to oranges, so I will add that while I haven't read LA's training book, according to one of my buddies that is following the plan, LA says it is important to get out and do a recovery ride after a hard effort, rather than a day off. (My bud offered this as I as whining about taking the next day off after a hard, hilly, humbling effort.)
Of course, none of this is to suggest that taking aa day off is counter productive. You do need a day off now and then, and you should never-ever ride/run when you are injured, running a fever, or inexplicably fatigued. Or when you're wife asks you not to. :)
Again, my point is just that Galloway is writing for people who want to do just enough to maintain some semblance of fitness, not those looking to get the most out of their ability. I also think that plans like Galloway's are excellent for the people whose goals are not necessarily top performance, but not too useful for those who are looking to improve beyond their current level.
|I'm a believer||Horace Greeley|
May 29, 2003 1:21 PM
|in taking a full day off the bike. I am usually stronger and much more recovered from a full day off, but it depends on what you do on your day off. If you are still very active off the bike, YMMV depending on the activity. Getting beyond science, recovery is different for each person. Age, fitness and other factors play into recovery. For me, a day off typically works, but sometimes I just can't pass up being active because of the weather, guilt or whatever. I would do more recovery rides, but where I live the terrain is more up than down and is not very forgiving. This is why I opt for a day off the bike. Most of my recovery rides are on the trainer, where I can truly do a recovery ride.|
|I think a lot here don't go really hard||ballbite|
May 29, 2003 1:49 PM
|on their "hard" days. I usually can feel my hard workouts 2 days later. If your hard workout are like that, then I agree with Galloway (and you). Better to completely rest.
Perhaps most cyclists don't really push themselves on "hard" days because they want to ride the next day.
|biking is a little different, less stress on body||uksrfr|
May 29, 2003 3:45 PM
|i trained for tri's, swimming biking and running, and read Galloway. His advice is great for running, and while it works for other sports, the main difference is that running without proper form can really cause a lot of physical problems, ie. shin splints, knee & foot problems. These problems are a lot less common in biking or swimming because of the body stresses are different. While rest is very imprtant, long slow rides can be benificial and not cause unneed stress on the body. all that being said, whatever works best for you is usually the best plan...|
|Read Joe Friel's books||byker|
May 29, 2003 5:10 PM
|They are awesome books to help you with training. They have every thing that you would ever want to know about training for cycling.|
May 30, 2003 3:41 AM
|Galloway has a slightly different goal in his plan; he targets a milestone rather than total fitness.
Having said that; I consider myself a 'multisport enthusiast' rather than a 'cyclist' (or runner or swimmer). I partake every single day of the week, most days include a total break from any single discipline.
(biking being the exception, since a bike is also transportation).