|Poll: Post your average training speed. nm||Endure|
May 29, 2003 3:25 AM
|Not "training" per se||Ray Sachs|
May 29, 2003 4:10 AM
|I don't race, so I don't "train" either - I just ride a fair amount. In relatively hilly country, I tend to average 15.5 to about 17 mph later in the season, when I'm in shape, and more like 14-15 mph in the spring. I'm more like 18-19 on long rides on the flats (which I hate and rarely do) and I've been on EXTREMELY hilly rides where I was down around 12-13.
Maybe that's why I don't race :)
|asking for trouble||filtersweep|
May 29, 2003 4:14 AM
|my Polar and FlightDeck- on the same bike, same ride, post different averages. There is travel time to and from the route with a billion stoplights... there are too many variables to get any meaningful info from this question.|
|Average speed is useless...||biknben|
May 29, 2003 4:28 AM
|Okay...maybe usefull in a time trial.
Which training ride are you talking about. Do you want the cruise interval day, hill repeat day, recovery day, or Sunday group ride?
Average speed means nothing unless you keep doing the same exact rides over and over. Sounds boring.
|372 mph more or less. nm||MB1|
May 29, 2003 4:35 AM
|that's taking it easy on recovery days! nm||JS Haiku Shop|
May 29, 2003 5:14 AM
|372 mph more or less. nm||netso|
May 29, 2003 5:29 AM
|Usually 60 mph unless there is a tailwind!|
|Avg speed not important too many other factors are(nm)||abicirider|
May 29, 2003 4:58 AM
|I have removed the computer.||Leroy|
May 29, 2003 5:03 AM
|I just ride by time and 'perceived exertion'. I just built up a bike and liked riding it w/o the computer, so I took the computer off the older bike, too. I see more scenery that way. Otherwise my times are pretty much like Ray Sach's. Maybe that's why I don't race, and maybe that's why I enjoy not looking at a computer!|
|Ditto. Havent known my speed for 5 or 6 years. nm||Steve_0|
May 29, 2003 5:14 AM
|I have removed the computer.||Ray Sachs|
May 29, 2003 5:56 AM
|When I first got into riding, I was obsessed by the stats. I hated it, so I also got rid of all of my computers. I loved riding without them, but eventually put them back on a couple of bikes so I could follow the occasional cue sheet. I found that they didn't bother me anymore - I'd take note after the ride, but didn't worry about it while riding. Now I have them on all of my high mileage bikes and rarely look at anything other than the time and current speed until after the ride. I'm far from obsessed these days but sometimes find the information sort of interesting.
Like when a thread like this comes up :)
|Slow. On recovery days, slower....nm||Dave Hickey|
May 29, 2003 5:18 AM
|Hills? Flats?Recovery days? Fixed gear?||KG 361|
May 29, 2003 6:12 AM
|This question has no answer.|
|Hills? Flats?Recovery days? Fixed gear?||lonebikeroftheapocalypse|
May 29, 2003 6:28 AM
|Varies in the 15-17 range. Nice to hear that not all of you guys average 22mph. I've thought about chucking my computer as well, but I like to know the mileage. Although sometimes I start to feel like anything less than 20miles isn't worth doing. Strange how these little gadgets can have such an effect on your perception of what a good ride is.|
|Hills? Flats?Recovery days? Fixed gear?||KG 361|
May 29, 2003 10:20 AM
|Really, that's about it for me, too. If it's REALLY flat, I may come back 18mph+ (this is assuming I'm riding alone-with a group it could be higher).|
|I think what he meant||stan_b|
May 29, 2003 6:33 AM
|was on a typical hard training day when riding solo. In my case: 18.5 MPH. By the end of last season I was almost at 19 so I have a ways to go to get back.|
|Average Rate or Average Speed?||shamelessgearwhore|
May 29, 2003 7:49 AM
|I've been wondering about this one for a while. My average speed when I'm out in the open seems to be 16-18mph but the computer figures in all the stoplights, stop signs, traffic slowdowns, MUT teetering child on trainers in the way slowdowns, etc. By the end of the ride the computer usually says about 14mph.
Maybe one of you mathematicians can post a formula for avg RATE. In other words, if you ride for 3 hours at 20mph, and for one hour of steep hills at 5mph, is there a difference in your average RATE from your average SPEED (which would be 16.25mph)?
I do have a computer that you can revert to a manual start and stop of the timer but I would find that distracting.
|re: Poll: Post your average training speed. nm||ChrisK|
May 29, 2003 7:55 AM
|I actually find an average speed very useful as I am trying to improve my speed/fitness. By going over the same course the average speed is useful, the only changing factor is wind speed. I only look at it after the ride though.
I have recently got a HRM which I don't find as useful. All it has told me is what I already knew, whether taking it easy at 140 bpm or going mad at 170 bpm
May 29, 2003 8:52 AM
|Weird question - but between 17 and 22 depending on the ride. I worked out my average speed for every week this year! (Iknow - don't say it!!) and it climbed from ave. 19 to 20 for between 150 and 200 miles a week.|
|re: Poll: Post your average training speed. nm||tigermilk|
May 29, 2003 9:35 AM
|As others said, it's impossible to answer. Yesterday I did an upper zone 1 recovery type ride of 3 hours at around 18 mph. This morning I did 90 minutes of tempo work bracketed by warmup and cooldown. The tempo portion, with stops for traffic and 90 degree turns was around 21.5 mph. The entire ride, with warmup and cooldown, was 19.8 mph. On days when I do 2x20s, I'll do those in the 23-25 mph range depending on winds yet my average for the entire workout is around 18 mph due to recovery spins between intervals. I used to be obsessed with average speed, but now it's more an afterthought - much like heart rate. I'm now just obsessed with power readings during the ride.|
May 29, 2003 10:08 AM
|My average year-to-date is 17.78 mph; total road miles divided by total ride time. I keep track of it only because I'm anal and both mileage and time are relevant aspects of my training log. On a given ride, I may average 14 or 23, depending upon intensity, and other variables. I live in Colorado, and can enjoy both great climbs and flatland rides. The same effort for each ride would result in very different average speeds, of course. It has been my personal exerience, that measuring progress solely by a "fast" average speed results in "no-zone" training, burnout/overtraining.|
|When you're relatively new at this stuff, you want to find out||bill|
May 29, 2003 10:39 AM
|whether you're in the right neighborhood. You tend to do every ride at more or less a going-kind-of-hard tempo, so the average speed thing has meaning.
Then you find out that this is where people branch off into different aspects of the sport. If you're racing, and doing specific training, there is no such thing. For lots of tourers and people who just enjoy turning pedals, they're not trying to go hard, but they sure can go long. Etc., etc.
Dude, have fun. There is no average training speed.