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what bike products would you like to see?(40 posts)

what bike products would you like to see?DougSloan
May 28, 2003 7:46 AM
Surely everyone must be thinking of innovative new or changed products while out there pounding out the LSD rides. Any suggestions? Here are mine:

*A drop handlbar / aerobar system that quickly and securely allows adding or removing aerobars. Maybe have a section of the main handlebar that is designed for the clip on to bolt through in a reinforced area. The current systems just seem too cumbersome and unreliable (slippage, etc.). It would be nice to throw on the aerobars for some rides as you go out the door or remove them for races, etc., quickly and easily.

*A variable stem that is easier to use, smaller, and lighter than the current ones like the Look Ergo.

*Light weight flat proof tires. That's a dream, I realize.

*An altimeter computer that actually works, with wireless pickups for speed, cadence, and power; could have it integrated into the frame (I don't like wires); maybe incorporate GPS and an HRM.

Any suggestions?

Doug
Cheap, accurate, simple power meter. nmeschelon
May 28, 2003 7:47 AM
what you said, plus podium girls at club rides (nm)JS Haiku Shop
May 28, 2003 7:49 AM
you mean you don't have them in TN? nmDougSloan
May 28, 2003 7:50 AM
that's it, i'm moving to the left coast (nm)JS Haiku Shop
May 28, 2003 7:53 AM
re: what bike products would you like to see?Jon Billheimer
May 28, 2003 7:50 AM
The tires and aerobars are a great idea. But my main beef is the cost of bike stuff and the exorbitant annual price increases that always seem to run well ahead of the rate of inflation. There seems to be a rule of thumb that if it's fun it has to be expensive. As a niche market I think we cyclists really get taken advantage of. My .02.
true, butDougSloan
May 28, 2003 7:53 AM
I think many of us buy into all the newest hyperlight/fast/gimmicky things. However, you don't really need to. I was just thinking about a thread about putting together a list of reasonably priced things for people to get started or on a small budget, the bike plus all the necessary accessories, tools, and clothes.

Doug
true, butJon Billheimer
May 28, 2003 7:59 AM
That also is a good idea. It could go in an FAQ section. For instance, the probable price point for a reasonably well-performing roadbike, including frame and component specs., cost of shoes, shorts, helmet, gloves, frame pump, bike computer, floor pump, etc.
too cumbersome?Steve_0
May 28, 2003 7:59 AM
4 allens and 2 minutes of time? Oy. People spend more time dressing in their bikeyclothes.

My idea was already taken; SPD-compatible sandles.
3 speeds!colker
May 28, 2003 8:00 AM
lightweight quality not expensive tall handlebar 3 speed town bikes. it would sell like popcorn. people riding cyclepaths on 27sp mtn bikes would have an alternative.
a lightweight fast 3(could be 6) speed is a beautifull thing.
...would fly like led zepplinSteve_0
May 28, 2003 8:08 AM
Firstly, I would SOOOOO love to see that (you should see my wifes super-de-mofified MTB - turned cruiser - upright bars, single rear cog, triple up front).

However, it wouldnt sell. Until the magazines stop becoming nothing more than sales-vehicles for high-end racing bikes, a practical bike simply wont sell.

Americans dont want what they need; they want what's cool. Litespeeds, Harley's, Hummers, and McMansions attest to that.
Americans don't RIDE bikes, they BUY bikes!shamelessgearwhore
May 28, 2003 9:59 AM
My wife rarely shifts hers ...Humma Hah
May 28, 2003 8:14 AM
... Before I worked on it, she was down to two gears, and never noticed because she almost never shifts. She did finally complain that she couldn't tell any difference between position 1 and 2 on the shifter.

I think, for most people, a 1-speed town bike would have appeal. I think a lot of folks would buy 'em if their LBS didn't try to convince them that they need the gears.
hmmm.. yes... but... i love rear derrailleurs!colker
May 28, 2003 8:57 AM
they are beautifull. btw, ( haven't seen any mention to them in the retro classic forum) do you know an old brand of english bikes called philips? they were painted black w/ gold pinstripes. the single chainring crank had the name Philips in big letters cut and stamped. my father loved his.
Super-slim wireless computer pickupsfiltersweep
May 28, 2003 8:05 AM
A pickup that mounts on the inner side of the fork so it can't be knocked around... same thing for a tiny wireless cadence pickup.
chain / gears that don't need lube or cleaning. nmBruno S
May 28, 2003 8:08 AM
You know I'm working on that last one ...Humma Hah
May 28, 2003 8:09 AM
... at $14k per copy, and I don't think you'll like the weight of the battery.
helmets without a "duckass"desmo
May 28, 2003 9:13 AM
Would like to see a modern lightweight hard shell helmet that echoed the style of the spaghetti straps. Not "retro", just a nice simple design that does not look like Japanese robot head gear.

A frame pump that looks like a Silca but works like a Zefal would be nice too.
Lightweight, portable, foldable bikestand,MXL02
May 28, 2003 9:43 AM
so you can save your paint job when you take a break during your rides.
Besides "kickstands", they used to have...joekm
May 28, 2003 10:00 AM
a little do-hickey that attached to your seat tube that could be folded out against the rear tire to lock it from rolling. You could then lean the bike against something without fear of it rolling off. Much lighter than a kickstand.
"Flick-stand"MisJG
May 28, 2003 11:05 AM
I think 'Rhode-Gear' made or makes it. It actually attaches to the underside of your down-tube and 'flicks' out to lock the front wheel in place so the bike doesn't roll and the handlebars don't turn. You can then lean your bike against anything without it rolling away or falling 'cause the handlebars turned.
Quickstands?? Why did they go away? -nmDaddylonglegs
May 28, 2003 3:39 PM
A single speed cassette road hubDave Hickey
May 28, 2003 9:58 AM
Chris King and others make single speed cassette hubs for BMX and Mountain. BMX are spaced at 110mm and Mountain is at 135mm. I wish someone made a single speed 126mm-130mm rear cassette hub. Freewheels are fine but they don't last very long and are a pain to remove. Here is a pic of Kings SS mountain hub. I asked CK and they said it cannot be re-spaced to 130mm.
A single speed cassette road hubLC
May 28, 2003 12:15 PM
Just use a regular cassette hub with some spacers. It has the advantage of more flexibility in your chainline.
Wheel dish is not equal nmDave Hickey
May 28, 2003 12:34 PM
2 things:Alexx
May 28, 2003 10:02 AM
First, I'd like to see an affordable, workable, durable aoutomatic shifter for town bikes-something for the mechanically challenged to buy and use.
My second desire is that somebody make a truly flat-proof tire, even if it rides poorly and costs a lot of money.
Your wish is my command...biknben
May 28, 2003 11:24 AM
I talked to someone at this company years ago. Back then their selection was poor and the tires were $50 a pop.

http://greentyre.com/english/index.html

Now it looks like they have extended their line and the prices are considerably lower. I might pick some up for myself.
I would like to know how they perform if you get them (nm)LC
May 28, 2003 12:21 PM
sorry - I need AIR!!! (nm)Alexx
May 29, 2003 5:11 AM
A cyclocomputer that ....joekm
May 28, 2003 10:04 AM
gives cadence *in place* of speed rather than a separate window for cadence *and* speed. Also, it can track cadence the same way my current one tracks speed. From a training standpoint, managing my crank rpms is more important to me than how fast I'm going.
Would this work?Humma Hah
May 28, 2003 10:45 AM
I wonder if you could fake out a conventional speed-only cyclocomputer?

Set it to kph. Tell it that the wheel circumrrence is some unbelivably small number, on the order of 800 mm. I need to think about the exact conversion a little, but it will only work if the display can read up in the range you need (above 99 will require a cyclocomputer that can read >99 kph, which probably does not exist), and if it will accept tire circumfrences found only on kids' bikes.

The magnet and sensor usually put on the front wheel would go on the crank.
No, It would nottxcross
May 28, 2003 11:15 AM
Please correct me if I am wrong...

You want the M/H to actually represent R/M

As a starting point lets use 100 R/M

100 R/M = 100 M/H
6000 R/H = 100 M/H
6000 R = 100 M
R = 100/6000 M
R = .0167 M
R = 88 ft
R = 2682 cm
My cateye won't accept 2682 don't know about the others out there...
Here is a thoughttxcross
May 28, 2003 11:33 AM
what you could do is set your circumference to 268 cm. Then when you are turning a cadence of 100 R/M it would read 10 M/H. If your computer gives speed readouts of 9.x then you could do it.
Cateye Astrale is doing that already..Qubeley
May 29, 2003 5:48 AM
You can display cadence on top and whatever on the bottom. Just switch to time, or distance or odometer, whatever besides speed. No?
The aerobar question is interesting...Gregory Taylor
May 28, 2003 10:21 AM
If I were designing it, I would have the aerobar plug into the bar/stem like a receiver for a trailer hitch. How 'bout a setup like the Cinelli Ram, but with an opening below the bar for the aero unit to plug into. When the aero bar isn't in place you would have a cover that would plug into the hole.

As for the product that I'd like to see, how about a 3 or 5 speed fixed hub? Sturmey Archer made one a long time ago, and they are as rare as hen's teeth now. I'd like one of those...

I'd also like to see more hubs and headsets made with grease fittings, so they can be purged between rebuilds. I'd run those on my commuter/rain bike.
I got a better idea...timfire
May 28, 2003 5:52 PM
Rather than a three-speed Strumy-Archer-type fixed hub, how about a "double"-fixed hub? Let me explain:

I would like a fixed gear hub that had two cogs right next to each other, one that lined up with the inner ring of a double crank, and one that lined up with the outer. That way, you could get a greater differnce between gears, plus you wouldn't lose mechanical effeciency like I would imagine you would fixed gear-hub.

For example, on the inner line you could have a 40/19, while on the outer you could have a 44/15. Both would require the same number of links, but you would get a huge difference between the two. You then could make a flip-flop double hub and get up to 4 combinations!

I concede that you would still have to fiddle with the wheel to change gears, and it would probable require a wider 130-road spacing, but I think it's a great idea.

--TK
headtube extenderstarwheel
May 28, 2003 11:05 AM
Simple headtube extenders that matched frame colors so bike shops could set up new bikes with threadless systems so the handlebars aren't 3" below the saddle. Serotta makes a ti version of this but it costs $60. It seems like bike manufacturers could offer extenders as a simple way to achieve better fit for many cyclists without resorting to tons of spacers and riser stems. Trek would be the perfect candidate for this because their headtubes are so short anyway.
They have them. They're called quill stems :-) nmDave Hickey
May 28, 2003 11:51 AM
Forget necessities--I want gimmickymickey-mac
May 28, 2003 4:46 PM
I want a little wireless camera mounted on my seat post, facing backwards, with a handlebar mounted screen so I can see what's behind me without looking backwards or wearing one of those dorky mirrors that you've taken to wearing. ;-) I'm picturing a smaller version of the camera/screen set-up that seems to be common on land barges (i.e. motorhomes) these days. Imagine being able to get the license number of the car that hits you--before it hits you--or being able to tell precisely how many cyclists are about to fly by you, easily cruising in a much bigger gear.
Components that lock onto the bike.timfire
May 28, 2003 5:31 PM
I would like components that lock onto the bike. I don't fear my lock being broken nearly as much as I fear someone walking up with a set of allen wrenches and stripping my bike in under 5 minutes.

--TK