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New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?(12 posts)

New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?flate
May 26, 2003 1:56 PM
Just got my first road bike, a Klein Q-Carbon (lifetime MTBer), just looking at it makes me giddy like a schoolgirl. Spent 2000$CAN on it, almost bought the Specialized Allez Elite, but had to go Klein for the frame, and the PAINTJOB! The only thing i'm not sure about is the TIAGRA parts (shifters, brakes and hubs).

Hubs not worried about - gonna replace the wheels with something lighter after i see what kind of abuse Montreal potholes can inflict.

Brakes - i dunno? doesn't stop as well vee-brakes or disks, but i figure upgrading them won't be make of a difference.

Shifters - ahh... i've been losing sleep over these: upgrade to Ultegra or Dura-Ace ($$$$$) or wait for them to break and then replace?

BTW, i got mine in Reef to Sky Blue, borders on purple, but a lot better than the black color they have on the website (picture forthcoming).

re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?slide13
May 26, 2003 3:11 PM
I never understood why they cheaped out on the shifters on this bike. Just charge a little extra and put 105 on there....I don't get it.

Anyway, if it were me I would probably switch them out to Ultegra or DA but the smarter thing to do is to probably use them untill they break.
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?rkalik
May 26, 2003 4:05 PM
Test drove the Q Carbon and Cannondale R600. Leaning towards the Cannon, I thought the ride was tighter and the bike accelerated better. the paint rocks on the Klein though, and the blue reef kicks!

Any last minute advice? Lifetime MTB also.
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?flate
May 26, 2003 4:39 PM
Here's the pic.

Actually i was at a bike store the other day and saw the R800 for 1800$ CAN (200$ LESS than the Klein), which would have been really good as well, but my LBS doesn't carry Cannondale. I's say if you like the ride of the Cannon better, no point in getting a more expensive bike with a worse component spec, you know what i mean? Gotta admit i was kinda swayed by the high-zoot factor carbon stays.

If you're like me, you'll have trouble getting rid of the full-fingered gloves, the baggy shorts, the recessed cleats, and the visor on the helmet!

didn't want to take a flash picture, but it makes the metal flakes come out!
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?rkalik
May 26, 2003 5:46 PM
ok, your pic rocks. that out of the way, the Cannondale R600 is about $150.00 (US) less then the Klein at my LBS. I guess I am really swayed by the high-zook factor as u put it, the Klein looks like it is just begging to be ridden! But the Cannondale feels a bit better. by the end of biz tomorrow, I will probably have one of the two. Unless I throw caution to the wind and go FELT!
I would look into upgrading the shiftersFrith
May 26, 2003 4:55 PM
and maybe the rear d.
I've seen some good deals on ultegra shifters linked from this site. That frame deserves it for defo.
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?BenR
May 26, 2003 5:37 PM
Consider using the Tiagra until next fall or whenever the new Dura Ace comes out and you will probably find some really good deals on 9 speed D-Ace shifters and rear derailleur. Ultegra shifters are definitely lighter than Tiagra but if you're going to bother upgrading might as well get some miles out of the Tiagra first (since it has little resale value new anyway) and then do it right with Dura Ace. Most of the Ultegra group is very nice, but the shifters aren't that great. There is a noticable performance and longetivity difference by going with Dura Ace shifters.
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?Akirasho
May 26, 2003 7:42 PM
... alas, when the new DA comes out, many surmize that because of it's higher retail... there'll be no big rush to significantly discount 9 speed DA... I guess time will tell.

Ultegra, however, will still represent a decent value (if you don't mind being so passe 9 speeding yesterday's news)...

Be the bike.

BTW, I couldn't resist a chance to post a pic of my Klein as well...

Is there a shifting problem? If not why replace?elviento
May 27, 2003 7:10 AM
I believe each group are matched in terms of grade and value. Mixing is probably not a great idea.

In other words, a $100 Huffy with Ram bars and Zipp 404 wheels won't be as good riding a bike as a regular $1500 off the rack bike.
How'd you get the Reef to Sky Blue color?....CaliforniaDreaming
May 27, 2003 7:30 AM
I was under the impression that only the Black was available on the Q-Carbon complete bike. I've only seen your bike's color in the catalog, which I was told did not represent the colors actually used on this year's run of bikes? Am so very confused now! :-0
re: New Klein q-Carbon... shifters?flate
May 27, 2003 3:58 PM
To be honest, i'm not too sure what their deals is. All i know is the Q-Carbon at my LBS (in Montreal Canada) was reef blue, and the Q-Carbon Race was silver (very nice as well). Very glad my Q-Carbon wasn't black!

As for the shifters, i'm not too worried about mixing and matching Ultegra with 105 or Dura-Ace, i just find that the Tiagra parts lack a certain refinement (kinda snob, i know). So thanks for the advice, i think i'm gonna keep them and shift them into the ground, then in the fall go for Dura-Ace.

re: New Klein q-Carbon... Color Correctionrkalik
May 28, 2003 2:21 PM
Here's an email from Klein Support regarding the color of the QCarbon series:

Early production models of the 2003 QCarbon were in a "reef to sky blue" color scheme. The production color was then changed to the "black with sudbury deboss" finish.

btw, I agree with you (your'e not a snob) about the refinement of the Tiagra series. I felt a lack of smoothness with this set of components, and am thinkiing of upgrading to the next in the series of the 105 line.